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From:
herbert breunung
Date:
January 3, 2013 00:31
Subject:
Re: wxPerl past, wxPerl present and wxPerl future.
Message ID:
50E4D166.70002@web.de
as said this year i want to write the wxperlbook,
https://bitbucket.org/lichtkind/wxperlbook/src
my tutorial in perl magazine is now complete

herbert

Am 02.01.2013 04:48, schrieb James Lynes:
> Steve:
> 
> Thanks for the conversation starter.
> 
> As a new learner,for me,  the state of the documentation is the major
> issue. The wxWidgets document is massive and the perl references are
> spotty. As a result, I bought the WxBook and converted the C++ examples to
> wxPerl to help with my learning curve. I found the wxDemo format difficult
> for an initial introduction. The "extra" code needed to integrate it all
> together muddies the water for a beginner or at least for me.
> 
> A net search, lists many examples/tutorials, maybe an effort to pull
> together a wxPerlBook might help long term.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Steve Cookson <steveco.1959@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I've been using wxPerl as my main development tool for the last 4 years.
>>
>> During that time my partners and I have developed a medical system for
>> endoscopic examinations.  We are currently testing it here in Brazil
>> in the largest hospital in Central and South America.  We have high
>> hopes and Doctors here are quite enthusiastic about it.
>>
>> During this time WxPerl has been a great tool.  Not only it is a
>> comprehensive tool in its own right, but also it allows access to all
>> the thousands of modules available on cpan, the various support forums
>> like Perl Monks and the extensive Perl community out there like Perl
>> Mongers and YAPC.
>>
>> But I don't see that the wxPerl community is expanding.  I'd like to
>> see more new users asking silly questions and learning about the
>> possibilities of using wxPerl for their own ends.
>>
>> The world of technology is changing fast.  New devices, new languages
>> and new tool-kits are being developed such as Android, qt, java and
>> objective-c, but none of these is obviously the "killer app" of
>> development tools.  Qt seems to be a nice tool, but it's probably not
>> so different from wxPerl, objective-c is too platform-specific and
>> java imposes too much of a performance overhead.  As an aside did you
>> know that VLC, the open-source video player, was originally built in
>> wxWidgets?  Sadly it then migrated to Qt.
>>
>> In the light of this competition wxWidgets is beginning to position
>> itself as a desktop development system rather than a true
>> cross-platform tool, which seems to me to be an act of retrenchment.
>>
>> Given all of this, I think wxPerl is still a good choice for a new
>> system.  I'd like to open a discussion here on how we might breath new
>> life into wxPerl and our user base.
>>
>> I have some ideas and I'm sure you must do too.  Given an opportunity
>> people are quite excited about the idea of contributing to wxPerl:
>> there was a lot of cooperative development over adding wxPdfDocument
>> to wxPerl and it's a great new feature, you should try it if you
>> haven't already.
>>
>> During the development of our system, my partners and I have had to
>> use number of different technologies and support forums.  Many of
>> these are c++ based but still have ten times the subscription rate of
>> wxPerl (which in my view is a much easier-to-use tool).
>>
>> As an example from my own area of interest, video processing,
>> GStreamer has a huge number of users, this month alone Gstreamer-devel
>> (
>> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-devel/2012-December/thread.html
>> )
>> one of Gstreamer's 8 eight support lists, has had nearly 500 messages
>> compared to under 40 in wxPerl.  If we could persuade a small number
>> of these that developing in wxPerl was easier than c++, we could
>> double our numbers.  But the relevant module, wxMediaCtrl, is not
>> flexible enough, we'd have to fix that first.  Ffmpeg, a competitor to
>> Gstreamer has a similar number of posts.  And I haven't even
>> considered Avconv, a new branch of Ffmpeg.
>>
>> And there are other technologies, within database technologies
>> Firebird again has 10 times the users of wxPerl but until recently
>> there was no good driver available on the Linux/Perl platform.  And
>> what about voice recognition?
>>
>> Remember how bioinformatics and the human genome project breathed new
>> life into the Perl user base.  A winning applications area can
>> transform a technology.
>>
>> Mark has done a heroic act of maintaining the system and I personally
>> owe him a huge debt of gratitude.  Our system would not be where it is
>> today without his support.  But we should have two or three
>> administrators of Mark's ability and knowledge (and patience, I should
>> add).  We are all a bit shy about giving Mark the credit he deserves.
>> I'd like to say here and now, that Mark's professionalism and
>> thoroughness is a benchmark that I should like to aspire to.
>>
>> Let's make 2013 the year that we double or treble our user base.  What
>> are your ideas?
>>
>> Happy New Year everyone.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Steve
>>
> 


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