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Re: wxPerl past, wxPerl present and wxPerl future.
From: Sergei Steshenko
January 2, 2013 04:31
Re: wxPerl past, wxPerl present and wxPerl future.
Message ID: 1357101078.14880.YahooMailNeo@web122502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
I am not a wxPerl user, and I am still subscribed to the list because I am too lazy to unsubscribe.
I originally subscribed because I intended to use.
I was hut by build problems (I build everything from source), so switched to gtk+ (gtk2) Perl bindings.
I still see in this list reports of build problems.
Do I like gtk+ Perl ? Yes and no - because I dislike gtk+. Luckily, there is no need to switch to gtk3.
So, I think, if/when I redesign my stuff, it will in Qt -> QML.
----- Original Message -----
> From: James Lynes <email@example.com>
> To: Steve Cookson <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Cc: email@example.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 5:48 AM
> Subject: Re: wxPerl past, wxPerl present and wxPerl future.
> Thanks for the conversation starter.
> As a new learner,for me, the state of the documentation is the major
> issue. The wxWidgets document is massive and the perl references are
> spotty. As a result, I bought the WxBook and converted the C++ examples to
> wxPerl to help with my learning curve. I found the wxDemo format difficult
> for an initial introduction. The "extra" code needed to integrate it
> together muddies the water for a beginner or at least for me.
> A net search, lists many examples/tutorials, maybe an effort to pull
> together a wxPerlBook might help long term.
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Steve Cookson
>> Hi Guys,
>> I've been using wxPerl as my main development tool for the last 4
>> During that time my partners and I have developed a medical system for
>> endoscopic examinations. We are currently testing it here in Brazil
>> in the largest hospital in Central and South America. We have high
>> hopes and Doctors here are quite enthusiastic about it.
>> During this time WxPerl has been a great tool. Not only it is a
>> comprehensive tool in its own right, but also it allows access to all
>> the thousands of modules available on cpan, the various support forums
>> like Perl Monks and the extensive Perl community out there like Perl
>> Mongers and YAPC.
>> But I don't see that the wxPerl community is expanding. I'd like
>> see more new users asking silly questions and learning about the
>> possibilities of using wxPerl for their own ends.
>> The world of technology is changing fast. New devices, new languages
>> and new tool-kits are being developed such as Android, qt, java and
>> objective-c, but none of these is obviously the "killer app" of
>> development tools. Qt seems to be a nice tool, but it's probably not
>> so different from wxPerl, objective-c is too platform-specific and
>> java imposes too much of a performance overhead. As an aside did you
>> know that VLC, the open-source video player, was originally built in
>> wxWidgets? Sadly it then migrated to Qt.
>> In the light of this competition wxWidgets is beginning to position
>> itself as a desktop development system rather than a true
>> cross-platform tool, which seems to me to be an act of retrenchment.
>> Given all of this, I think wxPerl is still a good choice for a new
>> system. I'd like to open a discussion here on how we might breath new
>> life into wxPerl and our user base.
>> I have some ideas and I'm sure you must do too. Given an opportunity
>> people are quite excited about the idea of contributing to wxPerl:
>> there was a lot of cooperative development over adding wxPdfDocument
>> to wxPerl and it's a great new feature, you should try it if you
>> haven't already.
>> During the development of our system, my partners and I have had to
>> use number of different technologies and support forums. Many of
>> these are c++ based but still have ten times the subscription rate of
>> wxPerl (which in my view is a much easier-to-use tool).
>> As an example from my own area of interest, video processing,
>> GStreamer has a huge number of users, this month alone Gstreamer-devel
>> one of Gstreamer's 8 eight support lists, has had nearly 500 messages
>> compared to under 40 in wxPerl. If we could persuade a small number
>> of these that developing in wxPerl was easier than c++, we could
>> double our numbers. But the relevant module, wxMediaCtrl, is not
>> flexible enough, we'd have to fix that first. Ffmpeg, a competitor to
>> Gstreamer has a similar number of posts. And I haven't even
>> considered Avconv, a new branch of Ffmpeg.
>> And there are other technologies, within database technologies
>> Firebird again has 10 times the users of wxPerl but until recently
>> there was no good driver available on the Linux/Perl platform. And
>> what about voice recognition?
>> Remember how bioinformatics and the human genome project breathed new
>> life into the Perl user base. A winning applications area can
>> transform a technology.
>> Mark has done a heroic act of maintaining the system and I personally
>> owe him a huge debt of gratitude. Our system would not be where it is
>> today without his support. But we should have two or three
>> administrators of Mark's ability and knowledge (and patience, I should
>> add). We are all a bit shy about giving Mark the credit he deserves.
>> I'd like to say here and now, that Mark's professionalism and
>> thoroughness is a benchmark that I should like to aspire to.
>> Let's make 2013 the year that we double or treble our user base. What
>> are your ideas?
>> Happy New Year everyone.