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From:
Joseph Brenner
Date:
August 12, 2019 19:21
Subject:
Re: perl6's new name?
Message ID:
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I think:

(1) For a rename to happen, Larry Wall really has to sign off on it:
this is just a social reality of the perl world.

(2) The rename really has to be an announced, offical rename.   It
can't be just an alias or a knickname or anything like that.

I find I like the name Camelia in part because Larry might actually
sign-off on it, in part because most of the alternatives I've heard
proposed ("raku", "six", etc) seem very awkward.

It does not seem that this issue is going to go away without a rename.

Names are important to perception, and they can matter critically to
the outside world.


On 8/12/19, Richard Hainsworth <rnhainsworth@gmail.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> The decision on perl 5 vs perl 6 naming is more revolutionary but it
>> IS hurting
>> Perl.  I love Perl but it has an image problem.
> True. Would a name change now have much effect?
>> If Perl didn't have an image problem,
>> Python never would have become so popular.
> Mmmm. ???? That is a very strong assertion and diminishes Python and its
> developers. It's the sort of statement that can't easily be tested. More
> a belief.
>>   Perl used to be THE scripting
>> language.
> True. And C was THE programming language. Life moves on. And in circles.
> Fashions come and go, and what was fashionable can again be so.
>>   It doesn't matter that it is still around and still continuing to be
>> developed.
>> What matters is people's PERCEPTIONS of Perl (dead, dieing,
>> irrelevant, etc).
>>
>> Too little was done for too long about Perl's image.  It may be too
>> late to bring it
>> back into the forefront as it used to be.
>
> Being excited about a language and using it for cool things - and
> broadcasting to the world that its cool will do more to change
> perceptions that Perl is cool, than a name change to Camilea.
>
> As you said: Perceptions are the most important thing.
>

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