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From: Ralph Mellor
September 5, 2018 14:43
Message ID: CAPLR5SdLoe_JxOk-hQ3bXqJTz1a0BAdUSx1DBFyuc0NgWyTRFw@mail.gmail.com
This is another follow up to Vadim's post.
Vadim, you didn't touch upon the `use Moo:from<Perl5>;` approach.
As you noted, you wanted to avoid P5.
And you've already created AttrX::Moo.
So perhaps you see anything related to Inline::Perl5 as doubly moot.
Regardless, I really would love to hear your take on it as an alternative
approach to the one you've taken even if only to guide someone *else*
taking that approach.
Likewise anyone else reading this.
I talked about Inline::Perl5 in my SO commentary. Have you used it?
The basic approach is you just write `use
Module::Such::As::Moo:from<Perl5>;` and stuff works as you'd expect if the
module were a P6 module. Behind the scenes it is executing P5 code using
the usual P5 interpreter and run-time and data, objects, calls, and
exception handling are automatically mapped to the equivalent P6. (Thanks
to work done by Stefan Seifert and friends over the last 4 years.)
Going this route, you would just need to figure out how to declare
attributes on the P6 side such that Moo does its thing on the P5 side. If
you got that working you'd presumably be able to use P6 to seamlessly
interoperate with *existing* P5 code that uses Moo objects and would get as
much as you wanted of Moo's functionality and battle-hardening for free.
You would presumably be able to do a lot more work in P6 with this P5/P6
interop than you could with just AttrX::Moo. And the simple :from<Perl5>
solution would presumably be even more widely interesting to users with Moo
code and an interest in P6 than a pure P6 AttrX::Moo.
Which would you say is more true for you:
* You will be ignoring :from<Perl5> for the foreseeable future. If this is
true it's presumably because you've already seriously explored :from<Perl5>
and found it wanting and/or you or your company are already fully invested
in the direction you've taken. Either way, if so, you might perhaps
experience discussion of it as an unwelcome distraction; please LMK if
that's the case.
* You prefer to largely ignore :from<Perl5> just for now. (Hopefully you're
willing to say at least a *little* about your view of it in this
If you haven't tried :from<Perl5> I can't help but wonder if perhaps we let
you down by not advocating strongly enough for you to explore it.
If you have, I can't help but wonder what you made of it and why you ruled
out using Moo features in P6 via :from<Perl5>.
So in summary I'm anxious to hear whether you tried :from<Perl5> and found
it wanting; or we just failed to adequately bring your attention to it; or
you rejected it from the get go based on your understanding of its
relevance (or rather irrelevance) to your situation.
by Ralph Mellor