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From:
vijayvithal jahagirdar
Date:
February 17, 2018 07:05
Subject:
Re: Naming debate- what's the location for it?
Message ID:
CANvkr8cE4vfQ2zvuRO=C9_uk17HGmROES8rK7ea_SkM+7Mr3Ww@mail.gmail.com
Marketing is not only about branding. It is also about finding Evangelists.
Perl's traditional base was in

   - Web Development,
   - Text Processing,
   - Bio-Informatics and
   - As a general glue language among the sys admin and EDA community.

How many of these sectors are moving away or have moved away from Perl?
What is the game plan for bringing them back?

   - How many courses are there today on Coursera or Other MOOCS which use
   Perl to teach one of the above?
   - If I wanted to learn something new today, rather than plod through 300
   pages of a book I would signup for a course and spend the time in watching
   the course material and doing the assignments.
   - When I wanted to learn DataScience, courses using R and Python were
   readily available. Even though I had been using Perl for 20 years, I did
   not even know where to start in the Perl ecosystem!

I believe along with re branding we also need powerful narratives about how
Modern Perl and P6 are better than their competitors in the selected
domains.

Regards

Vijay

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 3:26 AM, Darren Duncan <darren@darrenduncan.net>
wrote:

> If we assume the use of NQP is part of the project's identity, then yes
> that makes sense.  Historically that wasn't the case, eg the earlier Rakudo
> were written to Parrot PIR directly, and there's the possibility this could
> change again, though I see that as unlikely.  Not a bad idea. -- Darren
> Duncan
>
> On 2018-02-16 3:07 AM, Lloyd Fournier wrote:
>
>> I'm about to publish some blog posts with using Perl 6  to demonstrate
>> some cryptographic primitives. I was thinking about calling it "rakudo" to
>> at least intrigue people and make them google it. Couldn't we call the
>> language rakudo and the implementation nqp-rakudo? (ie a rakudo
>> implementation in nqp)
>>
>> LL
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 5:02 AM Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
>>
>>     On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 05:55:54PM +0000, raiph mellor wrote:
>>      > (Perl) Rakudo
>>      > ===========
>>      >
>>      > If jnthn and pmichaud and larry can warm to this idea, then:
>>      > [...]
>>      > The 'Perl' could be dropped from Rakudo specific propaganda,
>>      > calling the language just Rakudo instead, to reinforce that it
>> refers
>>      > to 6e and beyond. But the Perl could be retained in any material
>>      > covering both Raptor and Rakudo as a reunified tech / community.
>>
>>     FWIW, I am VERY MUCH AGAINST the idea of naming a language after its
>>     implementation.  I've seen the confusion it causes in other
>> environments and
>>     we ought not repeat that mistake here, especially since we don't have
>> to.
>>
>>     Whatever things end up being called, don't confuse the
>> implementation(s)
>>     with the language definition.
>>
>>     Pm
>>
>>


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