Once upon a time I said: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.dbi.users/msg/caf189d7b404a003?dmode=source&hl=en and wrote http://search.cpan.org/~timb/DBI/Roadmap.pod which yielded: https://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=Fund+Drive+Details&selfund=102 (A little over $500 of that I effectively put in myself.) My *sincere* thanks to all those who donated to the fund, especially individuals. I had hoped for more corporate response with less from individuals and I'm touched by the personal generosity shown. I've not drawn any money from it yet and doubt that I will myself. (I'm considering suggesting that the Perl Foundation make payments from the fund to people making specific contributions to the DBI. I'm thinking especially of work on a comprehensive test harness. But I'll see how the developments below pan out before making specific arrangements.) So, that lead to: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.dbi.dev/browse_frm/thread/ef14a9fc0a37441f/fb8fe20a86723da0#fb8fe20a86723da0 Which sums up fairly well where I'm at: DBI v1 will rumble on for Perl 5 and DBI v2 will be implemented for Perl 6. --- digression --- At this point I'd like to make a slight digression to highlight the amazing work going on in the Perl 6 community at the moment. Especially Autrijus' Pugs project which has brought Perl 6 to life. Literally. Take a look at: http://pugscode.org/talks/yapc/slide1.html http://use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal and especially: http://use.perl.org/~autrijus/journal/24898 Yes, that really is Perl 6 code using the DBI being executed by Pugs. That's great, and I was truly delighted to see it because it takes the pressure off the need to get a DBI working for Perl 6 - because it already is working for Perl 6. At least for Pugs. (The Ponie project is also likely to provide access to Perl 5 DBI from Perl 6 by enabling future versions of Perl 5 to run on Parrot.) --- digression --- I have recently come to an arrangement that will enable me to put some worthwhile development time into DBI (still very much part-time, but enough to give it focus and move forward). My initial goals are: 1. to work on a more detailed specification for the DBI v2 API that takes advantage of appropriate features of Perl 6. 2. to work on a more detailed specification for the DBDI API http://groups-beta.google.com/group/perl.perl6.internals/msg/cfcbd9ca7ee6ab4 3. to work on tools to automate building Parrot NCI interfaces to libraries (such as database client libraries, obviously :) But I'm hoping you'll join in and help out. I've kept an eye on Perl 6 and Parrot developments but I'm no expert in either. What I'd like *you* to do is make proposals (ideally fairly detailed proposals, but vague ideas are okay) for what a Perl 6 DBI API should look like. Keep in mind that the role of the DBI is to provide a consistent interface to databases at a fairly low level. To provide a *foundation* upon which higher level interfaces (such as Class::DBI, Tangram, Alzabo etc. in Perl 5) can be built. So, if you have an interest in the DBI and Perl 6, put your thinking cap on, kick back and dream a little dream of how the DBI could be. How to make best use of the new features in Perl 6 to make life easier. Then jot down the details and email them to me (or to dbi-users@perl.org if you want to kick them around in public for a while first). I'm about to fly off for two weeks vacation (in a few hours), blissfully absent of any hi-tech gear beyond a mobile phone. When I get back I'll gather up your emails and try to distill them into a coherent whole. Have fun! Tim.Thread Next