Hello This is a follow up to various discussions about localtime() and time objects on the other lists. I hope this is not out of scope as all this could be done already with Perl 5 and a module (though I think it really belongs into the distribution) In my opinion there's no reason for localtime or gmtime to be in the core at all. I especially want to focus on web applications with this proposal where the notion of a localtime becomes a bit superflous... A future standard time object should contain all the features of the current Time::Object. In addition, it should ease the use of different time zones. Currently, this involves fiddling with $ENV{TZ} and POSIX.pm which might look like: $ENV{TZ}='GMT'; my $time= POSIX::mktime($sec,$min,$hour....); $ENV{TZ}=$target_timezone; my @time= localtime($time); This is ugly... Instead of gmtime, localtime etc. we might want to handle this via the constructor of the time object: my $t= new Time($time); # for $ENV{TZ}/system dependant localtime my $t= new Time($time,'GMT'); # gmtime replacement my $t= new Time($time,'CET'); # chooses CET/CEST Needless to say, the time zone data should come from the system installed database of timezones, unlike e.g. the current Time::Zone module which is basically not usable because of inaccuracies and some other shortcomings (e.g. no automatic daylight saving time adjustments) as it uses its own data. The base time object should also contain equivalents to POSIX::mktime and POSIX::strftime - that module is simply too large if I only need time operations and it's nice to have everything in one place. Another interesting way to construct a Time object would be from a string scalar looking like an SQL date: 'YYYYMMDDhhmmss' as this is a rather common case, too. -- Markus Peter - SPiN GmbH warp@spin.deThread Next