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Christian Walde
August 20, 2023 20:15
Re: I partially disavow (was Re: PPC Elevator Pitch for Perl::Types)
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 20:23:42 +0200, Oodler 577 via perl5-porters <> wrote:
> > Given the surprise expressed by Darren, i recommend to
> > persevere by way of contacting all other people named,
> > gaining express consent, rather than the current assumed
> > consent, and posting an updated list of all those who
> > expressed direct consent.
> neither
> Christian nor "Oshin" POC Ovid had ANY right to participate in
> this part of the thread resulting from Darren's email. I ignored
> Christians reply

I'm sorry if my earlier reply was too soft. Let me be slightly more clear.

It has happened in the past on this mailing list that someone invoked me and spoke as if for me, with a message i did not approve, nor was aware of, nor was consulted about, nor had my consent attained explicitly.

While you're not the same person, you have demonstrably managed to repeat this kind of behavior at least once. The behavior remains inacceptable.

I hinted to you softly to give you an opportunity to redress things on your own terms, but if you feel that is to be ignored, then i feel a need to at the very least spell this out explicitly: Since you seem not intent on engaging in such redress, i will inform the people mentioned that they might wish to review this situation.

As for the right you mention: I do not know if by right you speak of a moral right, or a procedural rules-based right of this mailing list. To my knowledge no such rules-based right or lack of exists here. As for the moral right, i hope you understand better now.

In the case of any further messages from you to me, i recommend weighing whether the list has any interest in them or not.

Also, as general advice: If the force of ovid's reply is a surprise to you ... look into yourself and consider whether you engaged in responsive and open dialogue. Due to past events the perl community has acquired a certain sensitivity to people who make plans for the future and decline to engage in dialogue.

With regards,
Christian Walde

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