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Re: PPC Elevator Pitch for Perl::Types
From:
Avery Adams
Date:
August 16, 2023 12:34
Subject:
Re: PPC Elevator Pitch for Perl::Types
Message ID:
CAMc_1Ldd9QdfOvmhkY=c5h=Kjt2LsfOwJNJwaxURQdazFYARcg@mail.gmail.com
In my opinion as a less experienced Perl programmer, I would have to say I
thoroughly approve of the premises behind Oshun. The idea behind
Perl::Types also is appealing to me, and I feel that potentially the two
systems could coexist, and much work has already been done on both. They
have very different use cases and goals. I am just curious whether Perl's
inherent types are broad enough or flexible enough for most people to use
them.
Avery
On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 at 22:16, G.W. Haywood via perl5-porters <
perl5-porters@perl.org> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Darren Duncan wrote:
> > On 2023-08-16 12:06 a.m., G.W. Haywood via perl5-porters wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Oodler 577 via perl5-porters wrote:
> >>> https://github.com/Perl/PPCs/blob/main/README.md
> >>
> >> I've just spent an hour trying and to all intents and purposes failing
> >> to read this document.
> >>
> >> Am I excluded because <browser>?
> >
> > This is a simple documentation file on Github, which is a very widely
> used
> > and presumably thoroughly tested site.
>
> Thanks very much for your reply.
>
> Your presumption is, I think, unjustified. I believe there was a time
> when github told me my browser wasn't supported, but it doesn't say
> that now. It seems sometimes things render, and sometimes they don't.
> The most common problem is not this current README.md issue, but the
> fact that much of the embellishment renders in Palemoon as a rotating
> icon, which apparently performs no function but prevents all further
> interaction with this hapless user.
>
> > I can read the page fine on 3 different web browsers, Safari, Firefox,
> > Chrome, all fairly new versions.
> >
> > What browser are you using,
>
> I'm using Palemoon. The only browser addon installed is uBlock Origin
> which is disabled for github.
>
> > and can you try a different one? My top recommendation is Firefox.
>
> I switched to Palemoon very reluctantly after using Firefox for more
> than a decade when Firefox became unworkable for me. On Palemoon I'm
> currently running six windows with between them about 500 open tabs;
> for example I have one window more or less devoted to the RFCs with
> currently just over a hundred RFCs open in separate tabs. After some
> months of experimentation I chose Palemoon because it was the closest
> thing to Firefox that I could find which would do what I needed to do.
> I'm not in any hurry to go through all that again.
>
> But what if I'd said it was a Braille reader?
>
> Using a different browser isn't a realistic option, and no matter what
> browser I started from, if every time somebody suggested that I use a
> different browser I actually did that, I think I'd need to be running
> every existing browser. My thin desktop client is a Pi4B with 8GBytes
> of RAM but even that isn't enough RAM to pander to the 21st century's
> bells and whistles mentality. My wife still uses Firefox, but after a
> major upgrade recently she's begun to find it unbearably slow and is
> currently searching for alternatives.
>
> For three months now we haven't been able to submit a meter reading to
> our electricity supplier (Eon) with either Palemoon or Firefox, and my
> wife sent the supplier a revised logo, with the 'n' replaced by 'ff'.
>
> The fact that we're even having this conversation is a symptom of an
> epic failure in the processes. Remind me why HTML in the first place?
>
> Here at least, the tools are getting in the way so badly that I'm just
> going to walk away from it.
>
> --
>
> 73,
> Ged.
>