I hope this reply breaks out into a separate thread, given that the discussion is off-topic to the original thread. On Wed, 16 Aug 2023 12:16:08 +0200, G.W. Haywood via perl5-porters <perl5-porters@perl.org> wrote: >>> On Wed, 16 Aug 2023, Oodler 577 via perl5-porters wrote: >>>> https://github.com/Perl/PPCs/blob/main/README.md >>> >>> I've just spent an hour trying and to all intents and purposes failing >>> to read this document. >>> >>> Am I excluded because <browser>? > > I'm using Palemoon. The only browser addon installed is uBlock Origin > which is disabled for github. No you ain't excluded because browser. Find attached a png of palemoon on my system loading the link above just fine. > fact that much of the embellishment renders in Palemoon as a rotating icon > currently running six windows with between them about 500 open tabs; These might be connected, and i say this because i do the same thing. As a first line diagnostic, open a tab in palemoon with the link above, hit F12 and open the network tab in the newly opened interface, then hit F5 to reload the website and see if the network tab indicates any errors. A spinner getting stuck typically means that the page tried to load something and network or browser-internal processing issues prevented it from being loaded, resulting in an error that's novel to the website. Depending on what the network tab indicates, ways to redress this are as follows: 1. install https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/suspender/ to reduce the background load of open tabs 2. ensure your wifi has good connectivity if you're on wifi 3. inspect the network meter of your router, and if you see the outbound line maxed out consistently, debug your network and identify the culprit, as high outbound loads can block downloads -- With regards, Christian Walde