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On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 6:58 PM Dave Mitchell <davem@iabyn.com> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 05:54:52PM +0200, Tomasz Konojacki wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2022 15:43:44 +0100 > > Dave Mitchell <davem@iabyn.com> wrote: > > > > > It's gone through a 9 year deprecation cycle, with a mandatory > > > experimental warning that you have to explicitly disable. > > > > So signatures were deprecated too? "Experimental" doesn't mean > > deprecated. If we want smartmatch to be deprecated, then we should > > deprecate it. We should have done that a long time ago, instead of > > pretending that signatures/try/isa/whatever have the same status as > > smartmatch. > > > > Smartmatch was made "experimental" retroactively and for a large portion > > of our users the warnings started appearing as late as 10 years after it > > was introduced! > > Smartmatch was introduced in 2007 5.10.0). > It's behaviour was radically changed in 2009 (5.10.1/5.12.0). > It started having a mandatory warning in 2013 (5.18.0). > > > RHEL6: released in 2010, supported until 2020: perl 5.10 (no warnings) > > RHEL7: released in 2014, supported until 2024: perl 5.16 (no warnings) > > RHEL8: released in 2019, supported until 2029: perl 5.26 (warns) > > RHEL is hardly a relevant comparison. It is an extremely conservative > linux server distribution whose software is usually years out of date. > Virtually no one will have *developed* (as opposed to *deployed*) perl > code on RHEL. People who write CPAN modules won't have developed it on > RHEL, and even if they originally developed it on <= 5.16.0 it's unlikely > that they never tried it on any later perl (apart from abandoned modules), > nor ignored all the cpantesters reports. > While I fully agree people shouldn't be doing any of that, cpanm statistics suggest 13.4% of all of its users are using RHEL7 *today* (and 1.3% is using RHEL6). This may actually be lower than the real number as such users are relatively likely to be using CPAN.pm instead: http://cpanmetadb.plackperl.org/versions/ LeonThread Previous | Thread Next