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* Christian Walde <walde.christian@gmail.com> [2022-06-01 13:30:43 +0200]: > On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 12:52:29 +0200, Charlie Gonzalez <itcharlie@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:12 AM Christian Walde <walde.christian@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 04:00:48 +0200, Craig A. Berry < > > > craig.a.berry@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I think it's a bad idea for Perl to try to support > > > > > > Perl does not support anything. There is no defined policy, no guarantees, > > > no minimums, no promises. > > > > > > A ticket regarding that is open. > > > > > > The only actor supporting anything under the current regime is be each > > > individual implementor for any given commit. > > I know this may be out of scope of this discussion, but there are a few > > projects that try to support Perl on Windows. > > > > One example is strawberry perl which is still on Perl version 5.32.1.1 ( > > https://strawberryperl.com/ ). If Im not mistaken, the only project that > > has allowed for a most recent version ( version 5.34 ) of Perl to work on > > Windows is ActiveState Perl ( > > https://www.activestate.com/products/perl/ ) which has a cross OS platform > > that allows the same Perl build to run on different OS environments. > > > > Should we learn from these projects to support its efforts or does it make > > sense to have an internal p5p just working on supporting Perl on Windows ? > > That is indeed slightly out of scope here, because the kind of support in question here is one of policy and implementation in core code: > > https://github.com/Perl/perl5/issues/18243 > > That said: > > I am not very experienced with ActivePerl in its current iteration, and i don't know to which extent they still even communicate with p5p, so i also don't know how much work they do to "support" platforms in Perl. I do however suspect their situation is similar as with Strawberry: > > Strawberry Perl is less a project of supporting a platform but code that can *build* a release of Perl for the windows platform: https://metacpan.org/dist/Perl-Dist-Strawberry To my knowledge it patches very little, and mostly just configures the compilation and adds binary depencies to the install package. > > There might be some value of backporting some of those efforts, but that's a different beast from trying to keep a specific deeply internal function working on a specific OS release version. :) > > THAT SAID: > > It is deeply concerning that Strawberry is still on 5.32. This looks like something toolchain or p5p might need to adopt. It'd be a good use of TPF funds to contract someone to do this before it bit rots, if that's indeed the case. I think maintaining friendly ways of getting Perl on these kinds of platforms is certainly "strategic". I'd donate money towards such a fund and I don't even use Windows. And it could set a healthy precedent for other such efforts for other things in this area. Cheers, Brett > > -- > With regards, > Christian Walde -- -- oodler@cpan.org oodler577@sdf-eu.org SDF-EU Public Access UNIX System - http://sdfeu.org irc.perl.org #openmp #pdl #nativeThread Previous | Thread Next