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Martijn Lievaart
Date:
November 23, 2021 18:27
Subject:
Re: Pre-RFC: support https out-of-the-box
Message ID:
67c255ca-caef-9f9d-6ccb-ebf1b66c4c8d@rtij.nl

Op 23-11-2021 om 19:18 schreef Ovid via perl5-porters:
>> On Tuesday, 23 November 2021, 18:55:55 CET, Neil Bowers <neilb@neilb.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> When you install Perl, although it comes with HTTP::Tiny, it doesn't support
>> https because HTTP::Tiny requires IO::Socket::SSL (which isn’t bundled with
>> Perl). This means that CPAN.pm and other tools can't make https mandatory,
>> as when bootstrapping a new box you'll typically install perl then run cpan to
>> first install Net::SSLeay and IO::Socket::SSL.
> I love this idea and as a standalone, I support it as is, if feasible.


+1


> However, if we do this, can we improve the overall experience of Perl?
>
> One of the issue that I think Perl has is that we our presence is almost entirely in sysadmin tasks and web development. I can't comment on the former, but the latter also requires a few more modules to make Perl more natively useful. If nothing else, a fast JSON tool would be welcome (not the JSON::PP that is in core. That's very slow)


Standard CSV parsing is another one. I use a lot of Python only because 
that does support CSV parsing out of the box.


>
> Also, some proper native readline support would be nice for a useful debugger. I assume Term::ReadLine::Gnu isn't bundled because of the licence, but my debugger is always broken when I first use it.


+10 ;)


HTH,

M4



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