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Hi, Thanks for the excelent writeup! Op 27-08-2021 om 14:08 schreef Paul "LeoNerd" Evans: ... > * What is the actual name for the fully-qualified namespace used by > these new functions? We used "builtin" during the discussion, but if > you have to `use` a module to get at them they can hardly be said to > be built-in std::<function> is nice and short, even if a bit c++ish. > > * What is the name of the shim-loader pragma module used to obtain the > shortname lexical aliases? It could match the function namespace, > but it doesn't have to. Other candidates include "function" or > "functions". Though they bear a visual similarity to the "feature" > module, which we are trying to avoid. Maybe there are some other > words to be found. use std '<function>'; would serve I think. > * What functions to actually include in this new namespace? We already > have quite a few candidates for places to look for existing ideas, > which should be sufficient to try out the mechanism before we think > about adding actually-new ones: > + `Scalar::Util` > + Existing features like `fc` > + UNIVERSAL.c > + The badly-named `Internals::` > + Commonly-used POSIX functions like `ceil()` > + Rarely-used POSIXisms in core perl like `gethostbyname` I cannot remember the last time I used ceil, but I use gethostbyname a lot. But that may just me. I do not see a huge added value from removing gethostbyname and others from the global namespace other than orthogonality, but I don't care to much either. > > * Should it interact with `use VERSION`? Since we're already in a > world where `use VERSION` implies strict + warnings + a feature > bundle, it would be easy enough to suggest that it also pulls in a > function bundle of the same version. It would be nice if you could > > #!perl > use v5.40; > say "The reftype of arrays is ", reftype []; What to include and what not? As there is no backwards compatibility issue, it is just a matter of taste and bikeshedding, but I think restraint should be excerised. Once the deamon is out of the box, it cannot be put back. HTH, M4Thread Previous | Thread Next