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Ed Avis
August 20, 2021 05:16
Re: removing the old-style package separator
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I suggested that a first step to remove the old package separator could be to forbid it in variable names. Subroutine names like don’t would still be allowed, but $a’b would not. Since it can no longer appear in variable names, the problem of doublequoted strings goes away.

I am quite in favour of removing it altogether, but I recognize that subroutine calls with ‘ exist in the wild, so this might be a less disruptive first step. I think that it is simpler and less confusing to just forbid ‘ in variable names than to change the behaviour of doublequoted strings while continuing to allow ‘ everywhere else.

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De: Paul "LeoNerd" Evans <>
Enviado: Sunday, August 15, 2021 2:18:50 PM
Para: Leon Timmermans <>
Cc: Ricardo Signes <>; Perl 5 Porters <>
Asunto: Re: removing the old-style package separator

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 13:02:58 +0200
Leon Timmermans <> wrote:

> As far as I can tell, all the pain relates to quoted strings. I would
> argue we should remove them only there, that would have all the
> benefits without actually breaking anything.

Yes and no.

The trouble with doing that is it would increase the difference in
quoting rules between qq()ed strings and elsewhere.

On Libera/#perl yesterday we encountered a new one that nobody seemed
to be previously aware of:

eval: my $x = "scalar"; my @x = ("array"); [ $x[0], ${x}[0], "$x[0]", "${x}[0]" ]

      [ 'array', 'array', 'array', 'scalar[0]' ]

Notice how the braces of `${var}[0]` act differently inside qq()ed
strings as compared without.

I'm not sure I'd like making ' act in a similarly inconsistent way
between these two places.

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