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Yuki Kimoto
July 31, 2021 08:17
Re: "use v5.36.0" should imply UTF-8 encoded source
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2021-7-31 16:17 Darren Duncan <>:

> On 2021-07-30 11:15 p.m., Yuki Kimoto wrote:
> > 2021-7-30 23:46 Ricardo Signes wrote:
> >     I propose that "use v5.36.0" should imply that the source code is,
> >     subsequently, UTF-8 encoded.
> >
> >   At least after v5.38+.
> >
> > It is good to change one by one.
> >
> > I want to see the effect and hear the user experience of "use warnings"
> in the
> > next release.
> I strongly disagree.  The warnings and utf8 are unrelated features.  These
> are
> each also minor changes considering they are lexical.  Perl interpreter
> development is already moving at a relatively glacial pace, there is no
> benefit
> and a lot of downside of delaying the utf8 for a year just to see what
> people
> say after a production with warnings is released.  The 5.36 is still about
> 9
> months away, that is plenty of time for people to give feedback on either
> that
> or the warnings.
 On this mailing list, Felipe has a strong interest in this topic and

I personally think that the "use utf8;" and the internal representation of
Perl strings are independent things.

However, I feel that We need a little more time to think about it.

We need a conversation where Felipe isn't overwhelmed by the opinions of

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