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Re: status of smoke-me testing
From: Tony Cook
May 30, 2021 11:13
Re: status of smoke-me testing
Message ID: 20210530111312.GZ3719@venus.tony.develop-help.com
On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 10:08:18PM -0400, James E Keenan wrote:
> On 5/29/21 8:05 PM, Ricardo Signes wrote:
> > I was looking at https://perl5.test-smoke.org/
> > <https://perl5.test-smoke.org/> earlier today, and looking at some of
> > our branches, and just sort of generally looking around earlier, and I
> > came to wonder: Is anybody still smoking the smoke-me branches?
> > They were useful. Can someone who has been paying attention the whole
> > time fill me (and us) in as to their status?
> > Thanks!
> Yes, but it's complicated.
> IIRC, perl5.test-smoke.org died last September. Disk failure. Many years
> of data lost. Eventually a replacement was put together, but it's not
> receiving (or, perhaps more precisely, displaying) all the reports being
Unless it's changed, when Test::Smoke makes one attempt to send a
report by http(s), and if that fails no further attempts are made.
> And many fewer testers are sending reports. Go to TonyC's aggregator,
> http://perl.develop-help.com/. Note how the overwhelming majority of
> reports are coming from one tester: Carlos Guevara. And I believe that one
> consequence of the disk failure last September is that develop-help is only
> picking up reports transmitted via email, that is, sent to some perl mailing
> list. develop-help is *not* picking up reports that are being transmitted
> via HTTP::Tiny. test-smoke.org *is* picking up reports transmitted via
> HTTP::Tiny, but I don't know whether it is picking up reports transmitted
> via email.
My aggregator had test-smoke.org fetching disabled because it was only
failing (and sending me failure messages)
It still seems to be only failing, I tried loading both the API
endpoint and the home page a few times and got 502s each time.
I've set it to fetch daily, maybe we'll get lucky.
test-smoke.org only receives message sent via HTTP::Tiny.
> Let me put this concretely. I have never been able to figure out how to
> send reports via email, so all my reports have been transmitted via http.
> Up until September, my reports would appear on *both* develop-help.com and
> test-smoke.org. Now they *only* appear on test-smoke.org.
It used to be the default, and if it's useful, the appropriate parts from
my old smokecurrent_config are:
'mail' => '1',
'mail_type' => 'MIME::Lite',
'mserver' => 'localhost',
'from' => 'email@example.com',
'to' => 'firstname.lastname@example.org',
Mail is going to remain the fastest way to get reports into
perl.develop-help.com - I'm subscribed to the daily-build-reports list
and a procmail rule pushes the message to perl.develop-help.com as
soon as I receive it, while I have to poll for test-smoke.org for
> Also, the "new" test-smoke.org is (I have been told) just a VM somewhere and
> is often subject to 504 timeout errors. The people who maintain that have,
> I believe, time constraints. Recommend consulting with TonyC first, then
perl.develop-help.com is also a VM (at Linode Sydney).
I have no control over test-smoke.org.
I've considered offering to host it (on the same Linode), but IIRC it
needed occasional restarts even when it was hosted at booking.
 with retries
 I also check nntp.perl.org daily for any missing reports.