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From:
B. Estrade
Date:
April 9, 2021 04:51
Subject:
Re: on changing perl's behavior
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6d49416b-894d-80ec-4346-a181ae52a328@cpanel.net


On 4/8/21 9:23 PM, Ricardo Signes wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote:
>>> Outside of that, when a huge win can be demonstrated, stuff should be 
>>> removed, but then i'd prefer it be done by way of deprecating that 
>>> specific dialect.
>>
>> I would argue (though it's hard to search for "format" in the issues 
>> list) that being able to close 50+ cases would be nice if we could 
>> just say: "Formats are removed. this issue is now irrelevant."
> 
> I think that's true, strictly speaking, but:  of the people who use 
> formats, how many would be impacted, and how, if we removed formats?  
> Well, 100% of them would be impacted, and the impact would be "I had to 
> rewrite some code" which (given how formats work) would probably be kind 
> of a pain in the butt.  Sometimes a big one, sometimes pretty tiny.
> 
> On the other hand, the benefit of closing tickets that we were ignoring 
> /anyway/ is pretty darn low.

Might you have a sampling of such tickets? Please don't read into the 
request, I am more curious than anything.

Thank you,
Brett

> 
> Christian's #2, changing defaults when they confound users, should be 
> weighed against users confounded.  I think we'd find that in general, 
> new users are not reaching for formats.  If users say "I'm using 
> formats, and this part was confusing," and we say, "okay, we have ripped 
> out formats," I don't think anybody's going to thank us for that.
> 
> -- 
> rjbs

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