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On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:09:53 +0100, Eirik Berg Hanssen <Eirik-Berg.Hanssen@allverden.no> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:37 PM Christian Walde <walde.christian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 15:54:54 +0100, Eirik Berg Hanssen <Eirik-Berg.Hanssen@allverden.no> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 1:35 PM Paul "LeoNerd" Evans <leonerd@leonerd.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> Without wishing to respond to the specifics of the details this thread
>>>> is throwing up, I want to make a meta-observation.
>>>>
>>>> There seems to be a lot more people replying on this email thread who
>>>> seem to care about higher principles of language design, than were ever
>>>> present on the original github discussions about the feature:
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/Perl/perl5/issues/17952
>>>>
>>>> I would like to ask: Where were you all earlier? Why didn't you respond
>>>> there before we'd written it?
>>>
>>> If I'm included in that: I was here. With a mailing list subscription, but no Github account.
>>>
>>> And no, I won't sign up for Github.
>> FYI: Even if you didn't make an account, nothing stops you from reading along.
>
> And indeed, I did read along.
>
>> And while i'm fine with having objections against github, i think basic decency and politeness and respect for >>Scott's work who had no big choice in where he got feedback means at the very least the two threads he >>linked should've been read.
>
> I have read those. I'm pretty sure I read through them last year. And I definitely read through them again >when the PSC made their call. Okay, I might have missed some recent additions thanks to the friendly interface >hiding so much, but I don't see off hand that I missed anything significant. Clue me in?
>
>> Was there some kind of conception that an account was needed to read?
>
> The question I was responding to wasn't related to reading – it was " Why didn't you respond there before we'd >written it?" And I took "there" to refer to "the original github discussions about the feature".
>
> I will not respond "there". If that means I'm not welcome "here", let me know, and I'll just unsubscribe.
Tbh i suspect the thrust will be that we might want to either discourage usage of github for discussion or forward all github traffic to this list as well.
As for what you seemed to have missed: Your first email here was about this:
op2(op1(my $result1 = $input1));
Which you yourself then realized doesn't actually chain. Which was something mentioned by multiple people, and explicitly here in a post that isn't yet in the "85 hidden items" block: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/17999#issuecomment-806160294
Which then results in the question: Was this simple human error or something that github caused, and would changing our relationship to github fix it?
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With regards,
Christian Walde
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