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From:
Craig A. Berry
Date:
July 3, 2020 20:10
Subject:
Re: Announcing Perl 7
Message ID:
CA+vYcVxrSpHdR6MrmLaUbkBRVu+Vt7usfdv1M=sP5eN5bPaPNQ@mail.gmail.com
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 2:19 PM Todd Rinaldo <toddr@cpanel.net> wrote:
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> On Jul 3, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Craig A. Berry <craig.a.berry@gmail.com> wrote:

> However difficult it is to engage the mailing list (and I've been an
> observer of at least some of those difficulties for a couple of
> decades), it's never been considered optional.  This is partly
> convention and tradition, but not just of the "we've always done it
> this way" type but more because there's never been an equally
> efficient (if messy) mechanism for providing transparency and keeping
> the "open" in open source. My reading of L<perlpolicy/GOVERNANCE> is
> that making major changes to Perl actually requires consulting p5p
> (what Larry calls the legislative branch).
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> From what I can intuit from Larry's SOTO 20 years ago, Perl 6 was not initially planned on the p5p mailing list either.
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> https://youtu.be/a1SEt_-QMDo?t=3014
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> https://www.perl.com/pub/2000/10/23/soto2000.html/
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> The most amusing part of the talk for me is when Larry said: "We intend to abandon the Perl 5 porter’s model of development, which demonstrably leads to a lot of talk but little action."

First of all, only Larry gets to do this; secondly, there was a lot of
documentation and public discussion about what the plan was even if it
moved to different mailings lists; and thirdly, if you're using Perl 6
as a model for how to manage a big transition, well, yikes.

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