On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 05:03, Chris Prather <chris@prather.org> wrote: > > > If the Perl community has taught me anything it's consensus building takes *way* longer than 3-5 years. Moose is now 14 years old and based on the conversations around Cor there is still not a full consensus about the need for a core object system beyond bless(), and we're just barely (say the last 3-5 years) into a majority consensus that Moose is probably a reasonably good idea as long as you remove about 50% of it, without a real agreement on which 50% should be removed. > > -Chris And we don't really have any infrastructure that remotely helps establish if there *is* any consensus. It's probably mostly a feeling based on what you've seen in your direct peer group, interposed with how popular it seems to be on CPAN. Sometimes I agree with others feelings on matters. But as far as evidence goes, we'd be thrown out of the science party. I'm not even sure such a technology should exist, as it would surely still exclude the voice of those who can't speak, don't wish to speak, or weren't even told there was a place they could speak, or that there was something happening in that place that they should speak about, or weren't even aware there _was_ something they use which needed their participation in order to not ruin their life. A *meaningful* consensus is _hard_. -- Kent KENTNL - https://metacpan.org/author/KENTNLThread Previous | Thread Next