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From:
Karen Etheridge
Date:
May 14, 2020 18:44
Subject:
Re: perl 5.32 release date
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I'm dying of curiosity wondering what feature or bugfix you are waiting for
in 5.32.0?

On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 3:53 AM David LaCava <david.lacava@hcl.com> wrote:

> Hi Sawyer,
>
> Sorry to bother you again.  Have you had a chance to review my email?  Can
> you please provide a % confidence level that you believe 5.32.0 will be
> available on May 20th?  We need to decide ASAP whether we should go back to
> an earlier version (5.26) instead of waiting for 5.32.  5.26 doesn't have a
> defect which was present in 5.28 - 5.31.9.  We don't want to take the
> chance of releasing with 5.31.11 because it's still pre-GA release and has
> defects.  I appreciate your assistance!
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> -----------------------
> David LaCava
> Development Manager - ClearQuest
> david.lacava@hcl.com
> HCL Software , HCL Technologies
> 978-330-7951
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David LaCava
> Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:09 PM
> To: Sawyer X <xsawyerx@gmail.com>; Dan Book <grinnz@gmail.com>
> Cc: Michael Binder <michael.binder@hcl.com>; perl5-porters@perl.org;
> Lesley Macomber <Lesley.Macomber@hcl.com>
> Subject: RE: perl 5.32 release date
>
> Hi Sawyer,
>
> Has anything changed in the last week?  What is your confidence level
> about 5.32.0 coming out on May 20th?  Can you please give me a % level?  I
> am sorry, I know that's hard, but it's really important for us so we can
> plan our next release.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
> -----------------------
> David LaCava
> Development Manager - ClearQuest
> david.lacava@hcl.com
> HCL Software , HCL Technologies
> 978-330-7951
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sawyer X [mailto:xsawyerx@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:39 PM
> To: David LaCava <david.lacava@hcl.com>; Dan Book <grinnz@gmail.com>
> Cc: Michael Binder <michael.binder@hcl.com>; perl5-porters@perl.org
> Subject: Re: perl 5.32 release date
>
> [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust
> the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing
> email, which can steal your Information and compromise your Computer.]
>
> There are currently two options:
>
>
> * 5.31.12 released on May 20th, 5.32.0 is released on June 20th.
>
> * The release of 5.31.11 today was the last dev release and 5.32.0 is
> released on May 20th.
>
>
> We take testing very seriously and release a new development version every
> single month to thoroughly test changes. This means the closer you are to
> the stable version (GA), the fewer changes done and the code that had been
> merged so far has gone through more rigorous testing.
>
>
> If you wish to know what still needs to be resolved, you can view the
> remaining tickets (which we might be able to resolve with no additional
> development releases) here:
>
>
>
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2FPerl%2Fperl5%2Fmilestone%2F1&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.lacava%40hcl.com%7C7b55b6c3ab6244e39e5008d7ebbc815e%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637237067205671512&amp;sdata=waLrBJTO7W9RXOt5CKXvx%2BcyslGsPvZln59dgOZz8Oc%3D&amp;reserved=0
>
>
> There are several options available for you for shipping your software
> with the latest Perl:
>
>
> If 5.32.0 is released on May 20th:
>
> * Go ahead and use it. Everyone is happy.
>
>
> If 5.32.0 is delayed to June 20th:
>
> * We will release 5.31.12 on May 20th. You can use this version. It is not
> likely to have changes between 5.31.12 and 5.32.0.
>
> * You can also then upgrade from 5.31.12 to 5.32.0 the next month.
> Again, no expected difference between the versions so it should be a
> minimal update.
>
>
> * Alternatively, if you wish to run only from stable (we understand) and
> the release is delayed to June 20th, you can also release your software on
> June 20th or past June 20th. However, I imagine that's the least compelling
> option, since you probably have a timetable to which you need to adhere.
>
>
> We will make every effort to have 5.32.0 available for you on May 20th,
> but we cannot guarantee it. 5.31.12 might be enough as "next best thing"
> and a "practically same release as 5.32.0", which you might be able to
> upgrade the next month.
>
>
> I will also be providing more frequent updates to keep everyone -
> including yourself - up to speed on our progress.
>
>
> I hope this is helpful information for you. Please reach out - to the list
> or directly to me - if there's anything we can help with, other than
> getting this version out. :)
>
>
> Sawyer.
>
>
> On 4/29/20 12:19 AM, David LaCava wrote:
> > Hi Dan and Sawyer,
> >
> > We have a very important release coming out in June which requires this
> new Perl version.  Mike tested with 5.31.9 and everything passed in our
> environment.  What’s your official stance on development releases?  I
> assume you want folks to take your ga'd releases, but it's difficult for us
> to plan when we don’t know what 5.32 will be available.  Is 5.31.11 stable
> enough for us to ship with our product?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dave
> > -----------------------
> > David LaCava
> > Development Manager - ClearQuest
> > david.lacava@hcl.com
> > HCL Software , HCL Technologies
> > 978-330-7951
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sawyer X [mailto:xsawyerx@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 4:02 PM
> > To: Dan Book <grinnz@gmail.com>; David LaCava <david.lacava@hcl.com>
> > Cc: Michael Binder <michael.binder@hcl.com>; perl5-porters@perl.org
> > Subject: Re: perl 5.32 release date
> >
> > [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you
> > trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a
> > Phishing email, which can steal your Information and compromise your
> > Computer.]
> >
> > Hi David, Mike,
> >
> >
> > We are working on resolving important blockers in an attempt to provide
> a version you could use out of the box, rather than wait for another month
> for a maintenance release.
> >
> >
> > We are now (literally, during these minutes) are releasing another
> development version (5.31.11) and are hoping to release 5.32.0 on May.
> > However, we might prefer to have one single development release after
> > resolving all remaining issues. (We will try not to, but we opt for
> > stability first.)
> >
> >
> > We will keep this list up-to-date.
> >
> >
> > Sawyer.
> >
> >
> > On 4/28/20 9:08 PM, Dan Book wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> The latest decision for the 5.32 release schedule was recently
> >> announced:
> >> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >> nntp.perl.org%2Fgroup%2Fperl.perl5.porters%2F2020%2F04%2Fmsg257375.ht
> >> m
> >> l&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.lacava%40hcl.com%7Cd244aff11cf0461aa38408d
> >> 7
> >> ebaf0a01%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637237009329819
> >> 8
> >> 26&amp;sdata=SbPIQlvOQOrEQhM%2Frik2YtKW9XMc7SXWkWjaNgupiG8%3D&amp;res
> >> e
> >> rved=0
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:47 PM David LaCava <david.lacava@hcl.com
> >> <mailto:david.lacava@hcl.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Hi Folks,
> >>
> >>      I am Mike’s manager.  Can you please provide a date when perl 5.32
> >>      will be released?  This is impacting our ability to plan for an
> >>      important release of our product.  I appreciate your help!
> >>
> >>      Thanks,
> >>
> >>      Dave
> >>
> >>      -----------------------
> >>
> >>      *David LaCava*
> >>
> >>      Development Manager - ClearQuest
> >>
> >>      david.lacava@hcl.com <mailto:david.lacava@hcl.com>
> >>
> >>      HCL Software , HCL Technologies
> >>
> >> <https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.
> >> hcl.com%2Fhcl-technologies%23tech-head&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.lacav
> >> a
> >> %40hcl.com%7Cd244aff11cf0461aa38408d7ebaf0a01%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686
> >> f
> >> 4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637237009329829821&amp;sdata=9kpdGNMIeO8LVsaIYPD
> >> Y OmiXHqFtGnjIky7LebpXjSE%3D&amp;reserved=0>
> >>
> >>      978-330-7951
> >>
> >>      cid:image001.jpg@01D53828.0B01C3D0
> >>
> >>      *From:* Michael Binder
> >>      *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:17 AM
> >>      *To:* shay@cpan.org <mailto:shay@cpan.org>; jesse@cpan.org
> >>      <mailto:jesse@cpan.org>
> >>      *Cc:* David LaCava <david.lacava@hcl.com
> >>      <mailto:david.lacava@hcl.com>>
> >>      *Subject:* perl 5.32 release date
> >>
> >>      Hi Steve/Jesse,
> >>
> >>      The perl 5.32 schedule
> >>      (
> https://apc01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmetacpan.org%2Fpod%2Fdistribution%2Fperl%2FPorting%2Frelease_schedule.pod&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.lacava%40hcl.com%7C7b55b6c3ab6244e39e5008d7ebbc815e%7C189de737c93a4f5a8b686f4ca9941912%7C0%7C0%7C637237067205681509&amp;sdata=5e4FLtViCp8BrxHvCyj%2BR8BapUsiAiwdKSJxPK8ziuw%3D&amp;reserved=0
> )
> >>      says that GA is on 4/20 in one place and April or May on another
> spot.
> >>
> >>      I saw your names on the page so feel free to correct me if I’m
> >>      wrong in contacting you.
> >>
> >>      Do you know what the current plan is for 5.32?
> >>
> >>      Thanks,
> >>
> >>      Mike Binder
> >>
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