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CPAN river 3000: status as of perl-5.31.11 release
From: James E Keenan
April 29, 2020 21:51
CPAN river 3000: status as of perl-5.31.11 release
Message ID: firstname.lastname@example.org
[Apologies if this gets posted to list twice. Some attachment confusion.]
You can find data from a test run of the "CPAN-river-3000"
against all releases in the current (perl-5.31) development
In addition, please find attached a file in CSV format
holding data about those CPAN distributions which received a
grade other than 'PASS' during the most recent monthly run
or whose grade changed between the two most recent runs.
There is one additional attachment; see below.
I. Specific Comments
A. There was no new breakage in CPAN-River-3000
distributions in the past month which I could attribute to
changes in Perl 5 blead. Those distributions which FAILed
for the first time did so because of defects in their own
B. Between 5.31.10 and 5.31.11 a commit to Perl 5 blead
which caused a test failure in DBIx::Class was reverted. As
a result, DBIx::Class resumed PASSing this month and its
reverse dependencies were reached during testing.
C. ETHER++ released a new version of Devel::Declare, thereby
remedying a problem reported previously.
D. Since we're nearing the end of the 5.31 development
cycle, an overview of "what's not PASSing" is in order. See
This file reports distributions which received a grade of
FAIL for this week's 5.31.11 release as well as the
distribution's grade for 5.31.0 -- which is tantamount to
5.30.0. So the distributions in this list either were
FAILing coming into the 5.31 cycle or they FAILed at some
point within the cycle. Note that just because they end
with a grade of FAIL does *not* that "P5P broke them." If
you are concerned about the status of any of the
distributions in this file, I recommend you first go to its
bug tracker and see what has been reported there. Once
you've done that, I'll be happy to answer follow-up
II. General Comments
The data in these files are intended to be used in the
assessment of the impact which Perl 5 development is having
on the installability of an important set of CPAN
distributions. These are not the only data which can be
used or which ought to be used in that assessment.
The following items should be noted:
1. During the current 5.31 development cycle we are testing
3000 CPAN distributions.
2. The analysis is being conducted on FreeBSD-12:
$ uname -mrs
FreeBSD 12.0-RELEASE amd64
$ clang --version
FreeBSD clang version 6.0.1 (tags/RELEASE_601/final 335540) (based on
Thread model: posix
By doing so, we hope to avoid a monoculture of operating
systems and call attention to the fact that the impact of
blead on CPAN can differ across platforms.
3. The list of modules selected is curated so that the
automated test-against-dev program can run smoothly over its
more-than-six-hours length. That means excluding modules
that require interactive configuration, modules that make
excessive demands with respect to external prerequisites,
modules that require too much network access, modules that
are subject to timeouts, and so forth. The list of modules
was calculated on July 12 2019.
4. On the other hand, the list of modules selected has not
been filtered to exclude modules which, notwithstanding the
fact that other CPAN distributions depend on them, have been
failing tests for years.
5. The test-against-dev process is built on top of
Miyagawa's 'cpanm' and Breno G. de Oliveira's CPAN library
App::cpanminus::reporter. It therefore benefits from the
strengths, and suffers from the flaws, of those two
excellent libraries. In particular, if distribution XYZ has
a dependency on distribution ABC and if, earlier in the
process, ABC has failed, the test-against-dev process will
steer clear of attempting to fully test XYZ and will fail to
write a report for it. So some modules will "not be
reached" and will not show up in the output data until such
time as their upstream dependencies are fixed.
6. There are certain CPAN distributions whose prerequisites
I have not yet figured out how to install on the platform
being used. Those distributions are likely to have a grade
of UNKNOWN and their reverse dependencies will not be
reached. Tk is a long-standing instance of this problem as
its tests require a GUI (or a simulation of a GUI).
If you would like further information about this project or
to help it along, please contact me off-list.
This project benefited from discussion at the Perl 5 Core
Hackathon held in Amsterdam in October 2017, so thanks to
participants in that event and to the organizations which
This project also benefits from the generous donation of a
server by the New York City BSD Users Group (NYCBUG) and the
system administration expertise of Mark Saad and George
This project also benefits from the system administration
expertise of Andrew Villano of New York Perlmongers. Andrew
Villano and I made a presentation on this project at a joint
meeting of NYCBUG and New York Perlmongers (ny.pm) on
November 7 2018. See below for links.
See my presentation at the North American Perl Conference
held in Salt Lake City in June 2018:
Text of the Nov 07 2018 NYCBUG/ny.pm presentation can be
Thank you very much.