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From:
Smylers
Date:
February 5, 2020 12:13
Subject:
Re: chained comparisons
Message ID:
1701542ef81.d769ace3305066.6224765721274965331@stripey.com
Zefram writes:

> Branch zefram/cmpchain at <git://river.fysh.org/zefram/perl.git> may be
> of some interest.

Nice — that's definitely of interest! Thank you.

A few small doc suggestions. Re:

  A sequence of relational operators, such as
  S<C<"$a E<lt> $b E<lt>= $c">>, does not group in accordance with left
  or right associativity, which would produce the almost-useless result
  of using the truth-value result of one comparison as a comparand in
  another comparison. Instead the comparisons are I<chained>: each
  comparison is performed on the two arguments surrounding it, with each
  interior argument taking part in two comparisons, and the comparison
  results are implicitly ANDed.

• I think for somebody first encountering this feature, it's more useful
  to state what it does, before what it doesn't.

  Specifically “You can chain operators like $a < $b <$c” is
  conceptually quite easy to understand, even for beginners.

  Thinking about what that would do were it not for chaining, involving
  associativity and the truth value of one comparison being used in
  another, isn't necessary in order to be able to use chaining, as well
  as being harder to think about.

• The word ‘comparand’ doesn't currently appear anywhere else in Perl's
  docs. It's a bit jargony, and may be offputting to people unfamiliar
  with the word. I haven't looked to see how comparand's are referred to
  elsewhere in the docs, but if there's a reasonably concise alternative
  which can be used, that may be better.

And in this bit:
  
  Thus S<C<"$a E<lt> $b E<lt>= $c">> behaves very much like
  S<C<"$a E<lt> $b && $b E<lt>= $c">>.  The ANDing short-circuits just
  like C<"&&"> does, stopping the sequence of comparisons as soon as one
  yields false. Each argument expression is evaluated at most once, even
  if it takes part in two comparisons.

• “very much like” suggests it isn't identical, but doesn't precisely
  state the difference(s). The common expression only being evaluated
  once is a difference, but it would be clearer to specifically label it
  as such, and also state if that's the only difference or there's
  something else than hasn't occurred to me.

  It may also be worth giving an example of where avoiding double
  evaluation makes a difference, to illustrate that chaining isn't just
  a minor syntactic convenience but can have other benefits.

Thank you again for implementing this.

Smylers

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