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demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com> writes:
> So this enables indirect everywhere? That doesnt sound at all reasonable to
> me...
Enabled (as in indirect object syntax is permitted) is the current
state. Quoting the documentation for the feature:
This feature allows the use of indirect object syntax for method
calls[.] It is enabled by default, but can be turned off to
disallow indirect object syntax.
[…]
This feature is available under this name from Perl 5.32 onwards.
In previous versions, it was simply on all the time.
This lets you turn it off in a lexical scope, by saying "no
feature 'indirect';".
> I expect such a construct to be lexically scoped in which case why would it
> break CPAN?
> Yves
>
> On Sun, 26 Jan 2020, 12:11 Karen Etheridge, <perl@froods.org> wrote:
>
>> I would love to see this in 5.32 if possible, but can we get an idea
>> of its impact first? Is it possible to smoke this against cpan (or
>> the cpan-3000)?
The ability to turn it of will definitely be 5.32. The open question is
whether to remove it from the :5.32 feature bundle, so that "use v5.32;"
or "use feature ':5.32';" or "perl -E" will disable it by default. I'm
leaning towards "no", since we're now in the contentious change freeze
period.
- ilmari
>> On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 6:53 AM Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
>> <ilmari@ilmari.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Porters,
>> >
>> > Based on TonyC's initial "use feature 'noindirect';"¹ PR, I've created
>> > another one for "no feature 'indirect';"², which inverts the feature and
>> > makes it enabled by default, and included in all the feature bundles.
>> >
>> > Do we want to remove it from the 5.32 feature bundle, or is that too
>> > late in the development cycle?
>> >
>> > - ilmari
>> >
>> > [1]: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/17186
>> > [2]: https://github.com/Perl/perl5/pull/17477
>> > --
>> > - Twitter seems more influential [than blogs] in the 'gets reported in
>> > the mainstream press' sense at least. - Matt McLeod
>> > - That'd be because the content of a tweet is easier to condense down
>> > to a mainstream media article. - Calle Dybedahl
>>
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