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On 1 January 2018 at 16:36, David Golden <xdg@xdg.me> wrote: > On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 8:33 AM, Leon Timmermans <fawaka@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I meant it quite literally when I said "and no one on the list who was >> online that week protested too much". In my experience, the de facto >> process (both sides of it) often has more to do with being always >> present and being loud (in that order) than a rational decision making >> process. I firmly believe this process creates a toxic working >> environment (even when clearly no one has that intention). That is why >> I'm so offended by the way we've been working, and why I compared it >> to the need for moderation. > > > Notwithstanding Sawyer's response, I agree strongly with Leon's POV. I > didn't read it as a call for moderation, I read it as making an *analogy* to > moderation. > > The *language design process* depends too much on who is paying attention > when a change is proposed and who has the time and inclination to argue > until others give up. I find this toxic as well, which is why I've > increasingly pulled back from p5p and other Perl venues. Toxic seems way too strong. I think we don't have a process, and that we need one. Yves -- perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"Thread Previous | Thread Next