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Father Chrysostomos
December 31, 2017 01:02
Re: We need a language design process.
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Avar wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 30 2017, Tomasz Konojacki jotted:
> > I'm pretty sure we will never retroactively mark feature as
> > experimental ever again.
> What'll that mean? That per perlpolicy.pod we'll mark it directly as
> deprecated? And thus give users even fewer releases to notice that they
> shouldn't be using them?

You seem to be assuming that experimental status is somehow a path to
deprecation.  Where are you getting that idea?

If some feature is experimental, that means we are still trying it
out to see if the idea works, is feasible, etc.

To take an existing feature, such as dump(), and mark it now as
'experimental' in preparation for deprecation and removal makes no
sense.  We're effectively saying, 'oh, the feature we added 30 years
ago we are now still playing with to see if it will work.'  And then,
'we consider it a failed experiment.'

> How's that better for our users? You're just saying that they should be
> given less notice of invasive changes.

If two cycles are deemed too short for a particular deprecation, there
is no reason we cannot remove the feature after 3 or 4 cycles just to
give people some time.

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