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David Golden
December 30, 2017 23:08
Re: We need a language design process.
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On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Leon Timmermans <> wrote:

> I think you missed my point. That is not really a replacement for
> actual communication to our end-user base.
> A conversation I had the other day with Salve did make me realize I
> forgot an important stage in my post: user testing. Let some users
> from outside our echo chamber play with it

Who are these people and how to we get a representative sample?  Until we
get to those kinds of specifics, I think this sort of sentiment is good in
theory and difficult in practice.

Right now, the active members of p5p *are* the representatives of various
communities that have an interest in the future direction of Perl.  Many of
the high-river CPAN authors already participate.  Representatives from some
of the largest corporate sponsors of Perl already participate.

This is a volunteer-run project.  The way people get to have a voice is by
showing up.  p5p has been the forum for sharing opinions for a very, very
long time.

Thus, I don't think we need a different user group for input.  We have the
people we have at this point.

I do think we could stand to have more up-front planning and discussion
about the evolution of the language and less of the random-walk of feature
evolution by committers with an itch to scratch.


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