currently blead's 'make install' sends about 80 of the following to stderr: no documentation in lib/Archive/Tar/Constant.pm no documentation in lib/CPAN/Author.pm no documentation in lib/CPAN/Bundle.pm ... Since my goal is to make stderr empty during a blead build run, this makes me unhappy. This warning is generated by ./installman, which AFAKT is only used to install man pages when installing blead, not when later installing CPAN modules, so they don't get this warning. So, is this a real warning: i.e. is it in some way bad that we're installing modules that don't have any pod in them - if so then presumably we should raise tickets with all affected modules asking that they add pod. Personally I think it's perfectly legal for a .pm file not to contain pod, and that we shouldn't be checking for this. I.e. we should simply delete this line from installman: warn "no documentation in $mod\n" unless $opts{silent}; Other options might be to send the warning to stdout rather than stderr, or maintain a whitelist of module filenames which we know are ok not to contain pod. I don't like either of these options very much. -- Diplomacy is telling someone to go to hell in such a way that they'll look forward to the tripThread Next