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I did fail to explain why I wanted the feature to begin with. I will do that now. As you know I have been working on a Test::Builder replacement. One complaint that came up in code review was my use of a custom exporter library which provides a handful of features Exporter.pm lacked. One of those features was renaming imports. The others I can do without at this stage of development. The one feature I still *think* I will need is renaming on import. I say think because the part I need that on comes layer now that the project has been split into a backend and a frontend. The frontend still needs it, but that could change, thr frontend work will come later . Do I need this *now*? No. As I said that work will come later, and I may not beed it at that point. But I wanted to havw the conversation now, before I need it so that I am not blocked by it when/if I do. Is this relevant to core? Yes. The backend of the testing tool at least is something we hope to get into core, and I am working with rjbs and others to achieve that. The front end discussion has not happened yet, and I do not want to have it now, specially not in this thread. This is why my discussion was framed as "would anyone object" to test the waters well before I lock it in as a necessity so that I can try harder to avoid it of the idea is rejected. -Chad. On Dec 18, 2015 6:09 PM, "David Golden" <xdg@xdg.me> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:39 PM, demerphq <demerphq@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Until there is a compelling case for why it should go into core, I >> oppose >> > adding it. >> >> I think that is sad. > > ... >> I think that is entirely the wrong approach to problems like this. > > > Perhaps I can restate it in terms you won't find sad. > > I don't think we should ever approach core additions with an argument like > this: "I have great idea X, anyone object?" > > I think additions should at least be approached like this: "I have great > idea X. I think it should go into core because Y and Z. Do people agree?" > > Even better: "I have great idea X. The benefits are Y and Z. The > downsides are P and Q. On balance, I think that it would be a good > addition to core. Do people agree? Have I missed anything?" > > This doesn't mean we shouldn't ever add to core. It means that we should > have a case that is better than "no one said no". > > David > > -- > David Golden <xdg@xdg.me> Twitter/IRC/Github: @xdg >Thread Previous | Thread Next