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[perl #125443] some documented practices in CORE and ways they might be improved

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Linda Walsh
June 21, 2015 03:21
[perl #125443] some documented practices in CORE and ways they might be improved
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Was looking at the 5.20.2 docs and noticed a few places you could
make things a bit more tidy and less cluttered.. 

(I.)Universal man page has:

       The problem is that this code will never call an overridden "isa"
       method in any class.  Instead, use "reftype" from Scalar::Util for the
       first case:
         use Scalar::Util 'reftype';
         $yes = reftype( $h ) eq "HASH";

Instead of the above, how about:

				use Types::Core;
				$yes =  HASH $h;

You could use:
				use Types::Core(typ);
				$yes = typ $h eq HASH

But I think the 1st one is simpler -- what do you think?
I admit to prejudice, but 'typ' seems less likely to cause
confusion than something that has 'ref' in it -- so
reference & type -- seemed of parallel usefulness to use
1st 3 letters for each (but that's a minor and subjective 'nit').

II) in perlobj there is this text:
         use Scalar::Util 'blessed';

         my $foo = {};
         my $bar = $foo;

         bless $foo, 'Class';
         print blessed( $bar );      # prints "Class"

         $bar = "some other value";
         print "bar blessed:".blessed( $bar );      # prints undef

1) first problem, I tried the above and it prints *nothing* unless
you have warnings turned on -- and then you get
"Use of uninitialized value in print at - line <xx>".  

If you want it to print *something* (**anything!**: you don't 
even get "bar blessed: <warning>),  you could use 'P', which
not only prints 'undef', the rest of the output, but adds a
'\n' at the end  I don't think there is anyway to get your 'undef'
and your line output w/o explicit tests for 'undef' -- which
get rather cumbersome in code.

	use P; use Types::Core q(blessed);
	my $bar = "some other value";
	P "bar blessed: %s", blessed $bar;'

	bar blessed: ∄

the symbol '∄', means "[for all things,] there does not exist" (closest
I could find to "undef" in unicode).

A bit later (same manpage/pod) there is the text:

III)   If you want to know whether a particular scalar refers to an object,
       you can use the "blessed" function exported by Scalar::Util, which is
       shipped with the Perl core.

         use Scalar::Util 'blessed';

         if ( defined blessed($thing) ) { ... }


IV)     Note that "blessed($thing)" will also return false if $thing has been
       blessed into a class named "0". This is a possible, but quite
       pathological. Don't create a class named "0" unless you know what
       you're doing.

V)     If you simply want to check that a variable contains an object
       reference, we recommend that you use "defined blessed($object)", since
       "ref" returns true values for all references, not just objects.

Couple things here: 

1) a simpler solution (eliminate the 'defined'):

	use Types::Core q(blessed);
	bless my $thing={},"BLESSME";
	if (blessed $thing) {...}

In reference to "(IV)" --

	bless my thing={},0;
	P "thing=%s", blessed $thing ? "blessed" : "not";

  prints "not" for 0 or '0'.

In all fairness the same happens if you use Scalar::Utils 'blessed'.
Why?  You can't have a class starting with a number, that I'm
aware of -- so -- I would strongly agree to not create those '0'
classes unless you are using some new experimental feature.
In most cases, I can't think of a case where the defined is necessary.

In reference to '(V)'...wouldn't it be better to check if the 'ref'
not only is 'blessed', but is also of the *type* you want?
I.e. if you do this:

	bless my $object = [], "myobj";
	if (defined blessed($object)) {

You get: "Not a HASH reference at -e line xx".  As a coding
practice, that's really not much better than using 'ref'.
To me, if you want to protect your code, you need to check
the 'blessed'ness and the 'typ'e:

	use Types::Core q(blessed);
	bless my $object = [], "myobj";
	die "oh woe is me" unless blessed HASH $object;

	oh woe is me at -e line 3.

But if we check that we have a blessed object in the form
we "expect" (or want/need for our purposes):

	bless my $object = {}, "myobj";
	$object->{mystuff}={...} unless blessed HASH $object;'

	the blessed HASH checks for all we need and 'stacks'
for increased legibility..

	One last thing I came across recently:

VI -- on the 'perlref(1)' manpage, it cautions against accidently
autovivifying things:

	use P; use Types::Core;
	my @array;
	$array[23]->{"foo"}->[0] = "January"; 
	P "array=%s", \@array;'
array=[∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, ∄, {foo=>["January"]}]

That is definitely auto-viv'ed, It's not the easiest, but one
could use a function in 'Types::Core', called 'EhV' (Exists hash Value):
(if you think there is any function in perl core or cpan that can show
the effect of autovivification as easily as using P, I'd love to
know about it.  P's output of \@array, was meant to take little space,
but show what it was asked for, so it's not as pretty like Data::Dumper,
but it concisely shows the effects of autovivification in a way few other
(if any) single functions could.

	use P; use Types::Core;
	my @array;
	my $r= EhV \@array, 23 && EhV $array[23], "foo" && EhV $array[12]{foo}, 0;
	if ($r) {
		$array[123]->{"foo"}->[0] = "January";
	P "array=%s", \@array;'

In this case we avoided the autoviv -- the testing for which can
be a chore especially if you check for 'definedness' and
refs of the appropriate type at each step.  (No example from
me... too much work).

	Anyway, FWIW Types::Core will use 'Scalar::Utils for
it's 'blessed' function under conditions defined in 
Type::Core's manpage:

   blessed REF;                #is REF blessed or not?

   Included for it's usefulness in type checking.  Similar
   functionality as implemented in Scalar::Util (uses "Scalar::Util"
   if available, though it is not needed).
'typ' doesn't use 'reftype' as 'reftype' wasn't around when it was
developed (maybe I should update Types::Core -- since I'm
sure the Scalar::Utils implementation is faster than
my perl-only method.

Some of the above (output of undef, packages named 0) really should
be corrected.  The rest of the suggestions are pretty much just


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Site configuration information for perl 5.20.2:

Configured by law at Mon May 25 23:15:24 PDT 2015.

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 20 subversion 2) configuration:
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  Linker and Libraries:
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    libpth=/usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.8/include-fixed /usr/lib64/gcc/x86_64-suse-linux/4.8/../../../../x86_64-suse-linux/lib /usr/lib /lib/../lib64 /usr/lib/../lib64 /lib /lib64 /usr/lib64
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  Dynamic Linking:
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    cccdlflags='-fPIC', lddlflags='-shared -O2 -fstack-protector'

@INC for perl 5.20.2:

Environment for perl 5.20.2:
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    LOGDIR (unset)
    PERL5OPT=-Mutf8 -CSA -I/home/law/bin/lib
    PERL_BADLANG (unset)

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