I don't think I can conscience being the guy who said it was okay for "all" to mean "some." I think there's some really okay thinking behind doing that, but still... Having "use warnings" mean "use warnings 'default'" instead of "use warnings 'all'" seems like a less confusing change in the long run. The primary objection is that we've long said that "use warnings" means "use warnings 'all" and that people have used this, explicitly, in their code. So, here and there, things like: use warnings 'all'; warnings->import('all'); use warnings FATAL => 'all'; The most problematic case might be when someone wants to do this in code that may run on multiple versions of Perl, and someone suggested we'd see: use warnings ($] >= 5.022 ? 'default' : 'all'); warnings->import($] >= 5.022 ? 'default' : 'all'); use warnings FATAL => ($] >= 5.022 ? 'default' : 'all'); ...but the first two could really just drop the argument and work. So, we're left with that last one. Frankly, users of (FATAL => 'all') have expressly opted for a life of crime, and the big "Hic Sunt Dracones" warning in warnings.pm says so. From 5.20, they can already just say "use warnings 'FATAL'" too. So, unless there is a great argument against doing this, we should: * for sure: revert the earlier change * probably: apply a new change making 'default' exist and documented * mayyyybe: add a new warning that is in 'all' and not 'default' The third one makes me a little anxious, as we're headed toward user-visible code freeze. It would be nice to start the ball rolling, but if there is any trouble, I'd want it to wait for 5.23.0 -- a bit disappointing, perhaps, but with the policy question settled. -- rjbsThread Next