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September 20, 2014 04:05
Re: new long doubles option: gcc libquadmath
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On 20 September 2014 04:25, Josh Juran <> wrote:

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:12 PM, Jarkko Hietaniemi <> wrote:
> > I think the "12 bytes" for the x86 extended precision is an "urban
> > legend" of misunderstanding: the number of bits is always 80 (64 for
> mantissa, 15 for exponent, 1 for sign, no "implicit bit").  The 12
> > comes from the ILP32 way of storing the 10-byte thing in three 4-byte
> words.  In LP64 (like x86_64) it's stored in two 8-byte words, hence 16
> > bytes.  The unused bytes (2 or 6) are unused garbage.  They might be
> > zero bits, or they might contain your credit card number.
> I know you're being facetious, and crypto uses integer math so we're not
> talking about leaking private key material, but as a general principle,
> transporting garbage should be avoided.  It was bad when Microsoft Word
> bumped a document file's logical EOF to match its physical EOF (thus
> carrying around a partial block of who-knows-what prior data, which very
> well could have included your credit card number), and it's bad now.  Any
> unused bits in the in-memory format should be zeroed before transmission or
> storage.

I agree. Sereal will zero the extra bytes. (Cant remember this second if
that is going to be the next release, or the current one.)


perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"

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