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Sawyer X
September 7, 2014 19:53
Re: Roadmap/plan for Perl 5?
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On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Ricardo Signes <>

> [...]
> It makes sense for people who are going to contribute changes to have a
> vision
> of that change, and to proclaim it loudly.  "I imagine that we can invert
> the
> parser so that..." is a very useful vision to present.  I have said that
> from
> the beginning.


> "This is where I, project manager, see the entire project in five years," I
> said, is not, because my task here is to review, approve, or veto; not to
> personally cause code to be written.

Fair enough.

> > Except for a few problems:
> > 1. Work will not begin for newbies (or new-comers, or beginners, or
> random
> > contributors) if they don't know what the project would like to have.
> "The project" doesn't have a will.  Alternately:  if you had asked me to
> make a
> list of the top 20 things I thought we should have, in 2012, subroutine
> signatures would not have been on them.  What would that have meant, if a
> clearly-stated vision of the future didn't include the feature that's
> probably
> the one people are most excited about from v5.20?

If there was a list created by various people, subroutine signatures would
have been there for a long while.

> > 2. Lacking a direction means that any suggestion is just as justifiably
> > shot down as any other.
> I don't think I find this compelling.  It's seemingly equivalent to:
>   Lacking a stated project plan, it means all suggestions must be discussed
>   with equal consideration.

Yes, it is equivalent. But I don't think it matters. Many people don't see
p5p as a place to discuss ideas, but to have them shot down, and then to
not raise them. Existence of a plan helps with that.

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