On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:42:03AM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > On Wednesday-201407-30, 11:28, demerphq wrote: >> I personally think that we include things we shouldn't and dont include >> things we should, and that the discussion cannot be simplified to >> "minimal core is better". > > The problem with "more is better" approach is that the answer to "what > is more" depends on the developers you ask, and the current fad. Does > anyone still remember how SOAP was supposed to be the best thing since > sliced bread? There was talk of including SOAP into the core. (And to > be fair and balanced, also including XML-RPC.) Group of developers, > let's call them X, will want all XML utils. But group Y absolutely > needs CSV support, while group Z can't live without a distributed robust > high-performance message bus solution. No matter how wide we stretch > the "more", it will not be enough. Until it's CPAN. Over the past decades, people have talked about releasing "toolkits". Core + XML utils for X, Core + CSV for Y, Core + high-performance message bus solution for Z, etc. But I don't recall anyone actually releasing such a toolkit. (Unless you count what's being delivered by OS vendors toolkits). AbigailThread Previous | Thread Next