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June 27, 2013 11:26
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Re: What does "deprecated" mean? (was: [perl #118511] Use of bare <<to mean <<"" is deprecated - make a hard error)
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On 27 June 2013 13:08, Peter Rabbitson <rabbit-p5p@rabbit.us> wrote:
> I omitted a bunch of text where you keep claiming I said things I never
> said (and Nicholas seemed to understand what I meant from the get-go)

Dude, read your mails. You said:

"An end user could very well complain that a feature was gone without a
technical reason (see below)."

"I still fail to see the urge to break something without a clear
technical need."

You use "technical" as a metric to decide if someone has a worthy
reason to remove something. I posit that *any* deprecation is due to
technical reasons and as such the only way that your position makes
sense is to read it as implying that you get to decide if the reason
is technical enough. Which IMO doesnt fly. The time to make arguments
like that is when the feature is deprecated. Not when random developer
decides to use their volunteer tuits to remove something we said they
could remove. I would be really pissed if some developer decided to
contribute their time and remove a bunch of deprecated features and
you whined that there wasnt a good enough reason. I dont want
developers to be discouraged doing what we already told them they
could do. (As in been there, done that, it wasn't fun, and I'd like to
make sure it doesnt happen to other people.)

Now, if you want to join FC in arguing that a feature should be
*un*deprecated that is fine, go ahead. But that is an entirely
different argument to you having the right to complain if I remove
something we all have already agreed can and should be removed.

Yves

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