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Darin McBride
May 27, 2013 18:43
Re: RFC: Removing from the core distribution
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On Saturday May 25 2013 3:17:10 PM Curtis Jewell wrote:
> >  Hosting provider: Here's your system. Good luck.
> >  Client: Hey, I need perl!
> >  Hosting provider: Perl's on the system.
> >  Client: But I need to install modules to get my web application going.
> >  Hosting provider: Can't do. Please use php / ruby / ...  instead. 
> I have to admit that I work for a hosting provider (a large one,
> however,) and I know they're not like that. I remember talking to one of
> our tech support agents who helped a customer install Catalyst, for
> example.

One previous web host I've had the misfortune of dealing with made it 
extremely annoying to install modules (no shell access - worked around via a 
cron job entry that I'd put in, let it run the install, and then I'd take it 
back out of cron, I'm sure there are other workarounds available, too, but 
this one didn't have me worrying about security since I was still inside the 
webhost's panels).

And then they put gcc into a special user group, and I could no longer compile 

The fact I had to even request access was annoying.

I don't think all web hosts are necessarily enlightened to developers' usage.

However, I've since switched, and am much happier now with shell access :)

That all said, my points are:

1) Not all web hosts are good ones.
2) I'm not sure we can keep the bad ones from being bad ones, so don't go too 
crazy trying to help them from shooting their customers in the foot.
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