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RE: [perl #59456] Perl 5.8.8 Build Failures for SunOS 4.1.3

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Bob.Peterson
Date:
February 28, 2013 19:44
Subject:
RE: [perl #59456] Perl 5.8.8 Build Failures for SunOS 4.1.3
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774054F1FC80FC43800EE9CD8844104203319863@de08ex3005.global.ds.honeywell.com
It's fine with me if you close the ticket. The 5.8.8 build seems to be working well in spite of the failures.

In case you're wondering why we're running such an old OS, we have a very old (early 90's), very expensive (>$1million) test equipment used to test integrated circuits. The equipment works perfectly well, but the software won't work with newer OS versions and the vendor no longer supports it. We're stuck with what we have.


-----Original Message-----
From: Claudio via RT [mailto:perlbug-followup@perl.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:26 PM
To: Peterson, Bob D (MN14)
Subject: [perl #59456] Perl 5.8.8 Build Failures for SunOS 4.1.3

On Sun Feb 24 15:17:25 2013, jkeenan wrote:
> On Sun Oct 05 11:16:52 2008, doughera wrote:
> > On Sat, 4 Oct 2008, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 01:48:23PM -0700, Peterson, Bob D (MN14)
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We need a relatively new version of perl running on "SunOS cxh
> > 4.1.3_U1
> > > > 3 sun4m". We can't upgrade the OS because of frozen vendor
> > software. I
> > >
> > > Gosh. That's rather frozen.
> > > Whilst Perl 5.000 was first developed on SunOS, I don't know if
> > anyone
> > > has tried to build it there recently.
> >
> > I don't think I've tried in many years.  Probably not since 2001.
> >
> > > > I'm not experienced with large scale builds like this, but I
> > thought I
> > > > would try it anyways. The compiler used was "gcc".
> > > >
> > > > The build itself went okay (quite a few "implicit function
> > declaration"
> > > > warnings) but some of the tests are failing. To the
> > > > inexperienced
> > eye,
> > > > it looks like the most troublesome problem is the "lib/sort" test.
> > I
> > > > expect that we'll be using sort extensively.
> > >
> > > Yes. That looks like a potential problem.
> >
> > I vaguely recall runing into some gcc-specific sparc optimization
> > issues some years ago in the sort routines.  I'd be strongly
> > inclined to try again without any optimization.
> >
> > > What is the value of $^O on SunOS 4? (And for that matter on SunOS
> > > 5
> > - I don't
> > > have access to anything Solaris any more)
> >
> > I think both are 'sunos'.
> >
>
> I reviewed this ticket today.  The original poster has not responded
> in more than four years.  The version of Perl in question is out of
> support.  I recommend the ticket be closed.  I will do so in seven
> days unless someone wishes to take over the discussion and move it in
> a constructive direction.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Jim Keenan

I propose to close this ticket because not only is the Perl version out of support, but the Operating System is ancient: SunOS 4 was out of support on September 2003, SunOS 5 in December 2003 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solaris_%28operating_system%29#Version_history).
From anecdotal evidence (as imho), most of the Solaris installer base are running Solaris 10, while you may find some ancient-and-not-supported Solaris 8 installations. Everything older than that is extremely rare. Furthermore, Perl 5.16.2 builds on Solaris 10 with gcc.

Regards,

Claudio




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