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bulk 88
Date:
November 1, 2012 01:50
Subject:
RE: Eliminating the "rehash" mechanism for 5.18
Message ID:
COL115-W16344DB0DE276BCF1318F1DF600@phx.gbl



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> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:33:41 +0100
> Subject: Re: Eliminating the "rehash" mechanism for 5.18
> From: demerphq@gmail.com
> To: bulk88@hotmail.com
>
> Did you mean this to be offlist?

No. That was an accident.

>
> On 1 November 2012 09:09, bulk 88 <bulk88@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
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> There are multiple objectives. I had hoped to see a performance boost.

I just hope the replacement implementation will not be a performance decrease.

> As far as I can tell that would still work. In fact it seems to me
> like things would be better to some degree, as there would be no more
> "two hashes" and the difference between PERL_HASH() and
> PERL_HASH_INTERNAL_() would be eliminated (and actually
> PERL_HASH_INTERNAL_() just goes away).

The difference between the 2 macros is just where the hash key is 
obtained from,
"U32 hash_PeRlHaSh = (internal ? PL_rehash_seed : PL_hash_seed);" which
is constant folded away for PERL_HASH to PL_hash_seed.

> The thing is the layout would be different process to process, but not
> internally to a process.

That is fine for me. My unpublished code studies and remembers the 
positions in the array and linked list of the hash elements at runtime.

>
> On the other hand if we ever introduced per-hash hashing, (as a
> security measure) then it would break. Or we would have to give you a
> way to control it, or something. I'm hoping we don't need per-hash
> hashing if we have random hash seeding.

I could imagine restricted hashes having a per restricted hash hash 
that guarentees no keys collide and that all those keys are accessed 
through array alone, no linked list. Or maybe a future linked-list-less
hash api where reads and replace are cheaper than current hash api
but inserts are very costly.
 		 	   		  
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