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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 3:34 AM, Ricardo Signes <perl.p5p@rjbs.manxome.org> wrote: >> ...the brilliant strategy championed by Obra (Jesse Vincent)... > > I am at least in part on board with Aristotle's reading of that strategy. It > was all about stopping the growth of the language, but about modularizing what > existed and allowing the language to grow safely, and to be ported to new > runtimes. Me too. >> No new syntax unless there is a massive benefit in adding it, and even then >> only if it can not be done via a CPAN-distributed extension. > > Those stand in opposition. :-) I agree more or less with the second. > "Massive" is a relative term, and I think the question is its awesomenss mass > relative to its suck mass. I love the stuffing out of s///r, and while I > might not call it a massive benefit, I think it is a huge improvement. I think > `package NAME VERSION` was right to add. Etc. For me, new core syntax has some simple criteria for inclusion: «they are small and simple features that make daily programming easier»[1]. say, // and s///r satisfy that for me (smartmatch obviously fails the small and simple part). I would support signatures in core precisely because it's something I'd use in any non-trivial program, and because it's something I can easily explain to a newbie (more so than the current system). That doesn't say anything about how it should be implemented. I think we should always use some kind of hooks when possible, extendability is the most awesome thing since the invention of the if statement. I think nowadays say could have been implemented as a keyword plugin. We don't have pluggable operators yet, but I can imagine them in some future so features such as // could be developed on CPAN. And given that we now demand a break between a regexp's modifiers and the following operator we might actually get away with making parsing those pluggable too (though I'm not sure that one is really worth the hassle). The future is bright, we just need a can of volunteers to make it to happen ;-) Leon [1]: http://blogs.perl.org/users/leon_timmermans/2011/10/why-do-you-want-new-major-features-in-core.htmlThread Previous | Thread Next