On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 02:18:36PM +0100, demerphq wrote: > On 30 October 2012 12:34, Dave Mitchell <davem@iabyn.com> wrote: > > I'm not particularly keen on having hashes always randomised - it makes > > debugging harder, and reproducing a reported issue nigh-on impossible; > > But this is the case now. You have no idea if the rehash logic has > fired off when you debug, nor in which hashes. > > IMO, it will have the opposite effect, by making hash order dependency > bugs much more obvious. The rehash logic is intended to trigger very rarely. I was thinking of debugging in terms of everything else *apart* from hashes; for example it makes destruction order random between runs; so the first thing you have to do (which I remember well from the 5.8.1 days) is do all debugging with PERL_HASH_SEED set to zero; and when someone reports some weird unpredictable destruction bug, it's hard to reproduce. This has to weighed against, as you point out, the advantages it has of flushing out hash order bugs. -- This is a great day for France! -- Nixon at Charles De Gaulle's funeralThread Previous | Thread Next