On 29 October 2012 12:10, Peter Rabbitson <rabbit-p5p@rabbit.us> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:43:52AM +0100, demerphq wrote: >> If you feel that this feature is insufficiently thought out could you >> please summarize the feature as proposed, and the issues that emerge >> around it on some kind of wiki somewhere? >> >> Then you can point everyone to the wiki and we can all read it and >> review the issues and respond to them in some kind of crowd sourced >> specification proposal? > > I strongly believe that such course of action is not constructive, > regardless of whether it is led by me or someone with actual experience > in this area. I will quote myself from [1]: Personally i think it would be more constructive than what we have had so far. > Without a case study of this feature all we have are dueling levels of > technical and design experience attempting to predict what lies behind a > particular singularity. This is no way to judge the impact and fitness > of new features. For that one needs a study. Such a study has never > taken place, as the feature has never appeared on CPAN in anything even > resembling its current form. Personally i think there is a difference between prototyping a given implementation on CPAN and deciding what the implementation in Perl should be like. So it seems to me we need a feature spec for this, summarizing the different approaches and possibilities in one place so that we can do the analysis somewhere in a more sane fashion that quoting each others emails. >> Switching to a different medium I think would remove a lot of the >> emotion from this process. > > Yes, this medium is called CPAN. Moreover some of my opponents and the > author of the proposed feature himself are already converging on this > plan. > > I have no desire to derail this feature (even though I am firmly in the > "probably a good idea" camp). I just want to see it done without > bridge-burning. Well I think you have pretty effectively derailed this feature. And I think that community bridges have been burned in the threads you started. Which I think is pretty sad. Yves -- perl -Mre=debug -e "/just|another|perl|hacker/"Thread Previous | Thread Next