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Steffen Schwigon
October 27, 2012 17:33
Re: What happened to the whole "small core" idea?
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Aristotle Pagaltzis <> writes:
> * Peter Rabbitson <> [2012-10-27 10:35]:
>> What happened to the “ship it on CPAN and see” mantra?
> It worked. There are about half a dozen signature modules on CPAN, all
> implementing variations of the same syntax. At which the point is the
> “and see” part satisfied? Seventeen more variations?

IMHO these many variations on CPAN show that, regarding syntax, a n+1'th
variation will not solve people's needs. 

But it should if it gets into core.

I agree with ribasushi in his general point, maybe not in the whole
argument chain.

I think all those micro features like s///r, //, keyword apis, or better
working CPAN client defaults to make Perl + CPAN easier accessible, are
in fact big achievements. In the end they made extending the core less

It's not exactly Jesse's vision but still what ribasushi wants in his
polemic. And sub signatures are not yet in core. So, maybe p5p *is* on
track? And it's just the syntax sirens singing near the cliffs...?

Getting into core should add a clear benefit.
I also don't see that for sub signatures.

IMHO a problem is that lots of individuals hack on spreaded fronts. Why
can't we combine different visions: Stevan's MOP proposal, Martin's sub
signatures, Reini's type work, and (just to not only point to others)
some benchmarking work?

Kind regards,
Steffen Schwigon <>
Perl benchmarks <>
Dresden Perl Mongers <>

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