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Re: [perl #70369] [META] Needs expert assessment for 5.12.0

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From:
Nicholas Clark
Date:
July 10, 2012 04:16
Subject:
Re: [perl #70369] [META] Needs expert assessment for 5.12.0
Message ID:
20120710111552.GN9583@plum.flirble.org
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 09:34:49AM -0700, Jesse Luehrs via RT wrote:
> Is this ticket still useful?

Not with that subject :-)

But what we are missing is any sort of structure whereby anyone competent
can triage tickets, and mark those that are "seemingly valid, but I know
I don't know enough about this area to be sure".

I think that that was the intent of this ticket, and that intent is still
useful.

However, it will expose a second problem, which is that for significant
chunks of the core, *no-one* is immediately competent to assess the relevant
detail of the ticket. This holds for both bug reports, and patches. For
the latter, often it takes the "expert" a similar amount of time to validate
and understand the problem as the original patch author took on it. I'm not
sure how to solve that. The codebase is both very big and very tightly
coupled, which means that the whole doesn't fit inside anyone's head.
And most people working on it are not doing it anything like full time,
which means that their heads have to contain a bunch of other stuff.
20 people doing 2 hours a week (if *only* we had 20 people. Dream on) is
as similar to 1 person for 40 hours as the mythical 9 women making a baby
in one month.

(Just) money isn't solving this.

Nicholas Clark

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