On 11/26/2011 09:00 AM, Ricardo Signes wrote: > * David Golden<xdaveg@gmail.com> [2011-11-22T18:51:35] >> Put differently, we should *NOT* do either of these: >> >> (a) *say* we autoload charnames on \N{} and then *not* have >> charnames::viacode() be a valid function call after \N{} >> (b) *don't say* anything about charnames, but have >> charnames::viacode() be valid after \N{} > > This summarized my feelings very well, too. > > I would prefer if \N{} did not cause charnames::viacode (etc) to just start > working. That is a pretty weak preference, but I prefer that functions like > that have their module loaded explicitly. \N{}, on the other hand, is (or > ought to be) a much more basic language feature that should always work. > > This would require work to provide a way to only load charnames, and not > everything else. I know that work might not get done right now, and I think > it's more useful to have \N{} Just Work than delay for this small point. > > My likely order of preference, best first: > > 1. using \N{} automatically loads the data needed to make it work, but > no other functions magically become available > > 2. using \N{} loads charnames normally, with documentation saying something > like "at present, using \N{} will load the charnames package, but this > is an implementation detail subject to change; if you're using functions > from it, C<use charnames>" > > 3. using \N{} loads charnames normally, and we 'fess up to it > Sunder scenario #1, what should happen after someone does 'no charnames'; should it just unload the functions, or also \N{}?Thread Previous | Thread Next