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karl williamson
Date:
August 4, 2010 21:10
Subject:
Re: qr stringification: why are xism always present? I'm worriedabout backward compatibility
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4C5A3995.3010009@khwilliamson.com
demerphq wrote:
> On 4 August 2010 15:38, karl williamson <public@khwilliamson.com> wrote:
>> Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
>>> * Ben Morrow <ben@morrow.me.uk> [2010-08-01 22:35]:
>>>> My alternative suggestion was to introduce a new grouping
>>>> construct, which I tentatively called (?~sixm:) (I don't much
>>>> like that, but there aren't many alternatives at this point),
>>>> which *does* do what you expect; and use that for
>>>> stringification instead. That way we change the stringification
>>>> once, now, and then never again.
>>> I’m unsure about how good an idea that is.
>>>
>>> Presumably the defaults can change in a future version of Perl,
>>> in which case a stringified pattern that uses this syntax will
>>> mean different things on different Perl versions. In some cases
>>> this will even magically do what you want, but it could equally
>>> be a pitfall.
>> FWIW, I have given this some thought, and came to the conclusion that Perl
>> is almost certainly never going to change the defaults, because of the
>> backward compatibility issues.
> 
> Except that its been discussed many times that being able to specify
> the default flags in a lexically scoped manner would be a useful
> feature. So while it might be true that /perl/ will not change the
> default flags, it is quite conceivable that perl will provide the user
> a way to do so.

Certainly, but it's not relevant here, as this construct would not be 
affected by those.  (I now think a period is better than an underscore, 
so will use that in the examples.)  (?.:foo) would mean this cluster 
does not inherit the surrounding flags, but uses the /perl/ default 
ones.  (.x:foo) means this cluster does not inherit the surrounding 
flags, but uses the /perl/ default ones, but also the x modifier is 
selected, whether or not it is a /perl/ default.

Whatever the user has chosen to be the default, it will be shown in the 
stringification iff it differs from the /perl/ default.

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