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From:
Ben Morrow
Date:
August 2, 2010 02:58
Subject:
Re: qr stringification: why are xism always present? I'm worriedabout backward compatibility
Message ID:
20100802095800.GA77140@osiris.mauzo.dyndns.org
Quoth demerphq@gmail.com (demerphq):
> On 2 August 2010 00:54, karl williamson <public@khwilliamson.com> wrote:
> >
> > I think I like your idea. �Let me make sure I understand. �A tilde
> > immediately following '(?' means that the clustering group is to have the
> > default modifiers, subject to any flags that come after it. �Thus (?~:abc)
> > means all default flags. �(?~x:abc) means the defaults except use the x
> > modifier, and (?~-x:abc) means the defaults without the x modifier, which is
> > a somewhat more complicated way of writing the equivalent (?~:abc).
> >
> > regex stringification could change to output just the non-defaults, or we
> > could leave them as-is, and just add the tilde. �Since we would already be
> > breaking compatibility, I would think we might as well remove them.
> >
> > A tilde is not the ideal choice because it can easily be confused with a
> > minus sign. �I don't know if there are other characters that could be used
> > instead.
> 
> Can you paint a picture for me as to how you think this is useful and
> would work in practice? What problem it solves?
> 
> Right now I would vote against this idea in terms of minimal benefit
> for long term costs, so maybe I don't understand the point properly.

You may be right.

> Top of my mind questions:
> 
> How do you define "the default modifiers"? Assume we have them, and
> they end up user configurable, what happens when a regex is compiled
> in one context and the interpolated in another?

They can't be user-configurable, at least not as far as (?~:) is
concerned. If there is some pragma that sets a 'default' set of
modifiers, then (?~:) must always be with respect to the 'default
default'.

> What is the difference between /(?~i:foo)/ and /(?i)foo/

Nothing. However,

    "FOO" !~ /(?~s:foo)/i

but

    "FOO" =~ /(?s:foo)/i

Ben


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