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A, Pagaltzis wrote: > Therefore, we agreed that it would be better to put new semantics in a new interface that shall obsolete the old one. Did we agree what to call it? I'd like to propose "Fatalize" which can start a trend of adding -ize to mean "Just like the legacy version, but lexically scoped!" On 6/2/08, Aristotle Pagaltzis <pagaltzis@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi Roland, > > * Roland Giersig <rgiersig@cpan.org> [2008-06-02 17:45]: >> I'm wondering, would it be feasible to retrofit Fatal so it >> also can work locally? This would mean to rename/alias autodie >> to Fatal and add some backward-compatibility sugar. > > you're reopening issues that have already been hashed out. Please > look up the old threads if the summary at the end of this mail > does not satisfy you, as we've been over this in some detail. > >> If Fatal is used in non-global scope, emit a warning that it >> should be moved to global scope. > > And you are sure it should be, how? > > Perl lets people put their `use`s wherever they want and I make > use of that with some frequency. > > The documentation of Fatal.pm is also perfectly clear about how > it works. > > So if I happen to put a `use Fatal` line in the middle of a > nested scope there is zero point in it telling me that I did so. > >> Or you could >> >> use Fatal::Locally; >> >> which would make all following scoped Fatals act locally. > > Action at a distance does not a good way to design an API make. > >> I'm not opposing the autodie name, please see these suggestions >> as an addition and as a trial to rectify the somewhat broken >> semantics of Fatal. > > The legacy semantics of Fatal.pm will need to be supported in the > future since it has been around for around a decade. Trying to > fix it means there will interactions between global and lexical > semantics, and the consensus of our previous discussion was that > the corner cases cannot be resolved in a non-confusing way. > > Therefore, we agreed that it would be better to put new semantics > in a new interface that shall obsolete the old one. > > Regards, > -- > Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/> > -- "do it first and allow the implications of what has been done to settle in." -- Moglen on practical revolution