On 5 Feb 2007, at 21:51, jesse wrote: > It seems to me like part of the PR role is to manage expectations and > explain WHY Perl 6 isn't out now and why we don't promise a release > date > for something that's largely a volunteer effort that we want to get > right. If the only public relations question you feel you need to > answer is "when is it going to be out?" then I'm really not > understanding what PR is supposed to be. *In PR terms* the problem is that development of the next version of Perl seems to have no schedule. The existence of the Perl 6 project overshadows the fact that the Perl 5 line is very much alive. *In PR terms* life might be easier for Perl 5, and by implication Perl as a whole if Perl 6 didn't exist. That's not to say that we should wish that Perl 6 didn't exist. Perl 6 is as exciting as hell. The PR problem is that people further from the centre of the Perl community (naturally) assume that all the development activity is focused on the latest version which they believe is Perl 6. That's the target they're watching when they try to assess the vitality of Perl as a whole. Arguably they should be looking instead at the ongoing development of Perl 5, at least in the next year or so. Maybe that's the PR message that we need? -- Andy Armstrong, hexten.net