On Monday 05 February 2007 13:58, Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > On Monday 05 February 2007 2:51 pm, chromatic wrote: > > I *highly* recommend that non-contributors never tell *volunteers* what > > they should and shouldn't do. > That won't ever stop it from happening. as annoying as it is, which is why > I take it as suggestions. get enough suggestions on the same topic, and it > might just be something to look into. I repeat my questions to Nicholas then, and add a request to Be Very Specific. For all I disagree with Gerard's ideas which started the thread, he posted a patch without waiting for Magic Code Fairies to do the work for him. I welcome suggestions on how to tell volunteers who've already put tremendous time and effort into Perl 6 or Pugs or Parrot to: 1) work harder 2) give up their day jobs which provide for their families (or in my case, my cats) 3) do something they don't enjoy (PR) instead of development, or documentation, or testing, or design -- c